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Gluing the rosettes, which kind of glue?

Yaron Naor - 5-10-2010 at 11:54 PM

Can you help me with defining the correct glue for the rosettes?
that can be open/detuch easily for repairing.

Thanks in advanced
Yaron.

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omazuz - 5-11-2010 at 12:27 AM

Hi
I met few kinds of glues that r used to glue the rosettes- super glue, white/plastic glue, bone glue and even "devek maga" (i don't know the correct name for this 1)
I think the white glue is the best- and don't use too much so it will easily come off wn needed (i did it my self and its the easiest)
Hope to meet u soon
Ofer

Yaron Naor - 5-11-2010 at 02:01 AM

I am fine! thanks
"Devek Maga" is contact cement
What is the advantage of using the white glue on the others?

Thanks,
Yaron.

fernandraynaud - 5-11-2010 at 03:43 AM

Liquid hide glue Is available in little dated bottles, comes off easily with warm water. White and yellow glues in small enough emounts to be reversible are not going to prevent rattling, and if you use more, heaven help you as it does not dissolve or reverse and it cannot be glued to itself after the repairs are done. Contact cement and rubber cement may do the trick but don't give you ANY time to correct placement after repairs.

Hot hide glue is best but unless you already have a gluepot cooking, go for the liquid sort. I realize Cairo weather just separated Edward's neck that if I understand correctly the orthopedic surgeon had attached his head to the neck with liquid hide glue, but if Edward can manage without his head, surely you could go to Egypt too, as a rosette isn't a neurological or structural load bearing element !


corridoio - 5-11-2010 at 03:49 AM

another vote for liquid hide glue

Sazi - 5-11-2010 at 03:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
White and yellow glue... does not dissolve or reverse and it cannot be glued to itself after the repairs are done.


That's really worth remembering Yaron, and while hot hide glue is best for a lot of things, it's awkward to glue in a rosette with it in time before it gels, I agree that liquid hide glue is a good choice here, but don't use it for anything critical, as Edward found out it is good for fixing old furniture, not building ouds.

Sazi - 5-12-2010 at 10:55 PM

Yaron, (and others involved in instrument making for that matter) you may find this link useful...

http://www.mcknightguitars.com/glue-hardness.html

Yaron Naor - 5-13-2010 at 10:20 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Sazi  
Yaron, (and others involved in instrument making for that matter) you may find this link useful...

[url]http://www.mcknightguitars.com/glue-hardness.html
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Dear Sazi,
Thanks for your comments and a great link!
I really appreciate it, I will use liquid hide glue, and heat it for dis-assembly and repair
Thank you all
Yaron.

Sazi - 5-13-2010 at 04:30 PM

You are most welcome Yaron, I am glad you found my post helpful.