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Broken oud

mrkmni - 10-19-2010 at 06:43 PM

Hello guys,
Last week my oud fell and got these cracks. Is there any hope for repair or may be it is time to try another thing..
Thanks,

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FastForward - 10-19-2010 at 07:40 PM

My opinion and I am not experienced is that you can fix this with some very thin super glue. You can find it at your local hobby shop. This kind of super glue has water consistency and is capably of reaching through very thin cracks by capillary action. You need to apply some little clamping, a masking tape might work well.


ExtreamTarab - 10-19-2010 at 07:57 PM

I am no expert as well, but I think it's repairable...good luck ;)

BTW, did you get my email ???

sabbassi - 10-20-2010 at 01:13 AM

Just like FastForward has recommended, some sanding afterward and a bit of varnish if you have at the end.

Matthias - 10-20-2010 at 02:37 AM

Hello,

this is not a case for super glue. There are too many cracks that should be glued at the same time.

Matthias

mrkmni - 10-20-2010 at 12:49 PM

Quote: Originally posted by FastForward  
My opinion and I am not experienced is that you can fix this with some very thin super glue. You can find it at your local hobby shop. This kind of super glue has water consistency and is capably of reaching through very thin cracks by capillary action. You need to apply some little clamping, a masking tape might work well.


Thanks Fastforward,
do you mean by superglue the small tube about $1?

mrkmni - 10-20-2010 at 12:50 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Matthias  
Hello,

this is not a case for super glue. There are too many cracks that should be glued at the same time.

Matthias

What is your suggestion?
tks

FastForward - 10-20-2010 at 02:57 PM

Yes, its very similar to that except the one I am proposing that you use has a much thinner consistency, almost like water. They are all known as cyanoacrylate adhesives.

Here is an example http://www.zapglue.com/CA.html (the pink bottle one)

It is not expensive and you can buy it for about $5.

And once you are done, you can just do some light sanding and reapply the finish if you need it as Samir suggested.

Matthias, I would like to know how you would you go about this crack. To me, even though it is not a hair-line crack, the pieces are still in place and I think that the CA glue would work well. Look at the second image. The parts match very well once closed on each other.

I would love to hear your opinion as well as that of professional makers.



SamirCanada - 10-20-2010 at 05:35 PM

To me its always best to use animal glue on woods. Hide glue especially because it pulls the fibres of the wood together as it dries.
Its also easy to scrape off the excess as it dries. you dont need much clamping pressure at all because of the way it works.


FastForward - 10-20-2010 at 08:00 PM

Samir, I would agree on using Hide glue most of the time.

However, in this particular case, hide glue will not penetrate well between the broken pieces of wood and will leave a weaker joint.


Matthias - 10-21-2010 at 10:31 AM

Quote: Originally posted by FastForward  


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Matthias, I would like to know how you would you go about this crack. To me, even though it is not a hair-line crack, the pieces are still in place and I think that the CA glue would work well. Look at the second image. The parts match very well once closed on each other.

I would love to hear your opinion as well as that of professional makers.


As SamirCanada wrote, hide would be the best.
For me the problem with super glue is the fact that it fixes within 10 seconds. How would you manage it to put in glue into all the cracks and "press" them before the glue has fixed it. With hide glue you have more time and furthermore you can open parts again if you are not satisfied.

Best regards

Matthias

mrkmni - 10-21-2010 at 01:03 PM

So Matthias, what is your suggestion?
tks

Matthias - 10-21-2010 at 02:15 PM

Quote: Originally posted by mrkmni  
So Matthias, what is your suggestion?
tks


using hide glue and doing probably in several steps.
Where to begin I cannot decide if I do not have the instrument in my hand. And may be you can apply some pressure though the open soundhole

Best Matthias

mrkmni - 10-21-2010 at 04:26 PM

Can I do it with super glue with several steps? it take 1 minute I think to harden.

Matthias - 10-22-2010 at 02:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mrkmni  
Can I do it with super glue with several steps? it take 1 minute I think to harden.


If there is a part that did not glue correct, you never can open it

Matthias

mrkmni - 10-22-2010 at 06:51 PM

Thanks Matthias,
This w-e I am going to buy the glue, and I will try to fix the problem untill I get new oud.