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Murat Aydemir's "Turkish Music Makam Guide"

Plum_Pasha - 4-6-2011 at 08:57 PM

Hi - just wanted to put this out there since I have not really seen any sort of Turkish Makam guide book in a language other than Turkish before: youngish but professional tanbur player Murat Aydemir's "Turkish Music Makam Guide" (published by Pan Yayıncılık): http://www.goldenhorn.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Sto...

216 pages, comes with 2 CDs. I have a copy in hand but have not yet looked it over closely. I interviewed and recorded him several times for my PhD dissertation on the subject (the forthcoming "The Theory and Praxis of Makam in Classical Turkish Music 1910-2010" - I'll post here when it's signed off on, probably in June); I like his sense of the makam system.

Many of the makam-s he shows are rare/obscure; good to have something in English on these, especially. I'll write more on it here in a week or two (am traveling/gigging now) but if anyone has read it, please comment below!

Eric Ederer

Ararat66 - 4-7-2011 at 09:54 AM

I look forward to your thoughts on this.

Leon

adamgood - 4-7-2011 at 08:27 PM

I got a copy of it from Pan last time I was there in October 2010. Above all it's amazing to have something in English at all!!!! It's nice and small, compact and really well done, well organized.

On the accompanying CD, for each makam he shows 1 taksim and 1 composed piece. Either pesrev, saz semaisi or sarki, maybe there are a couple of ilahis. The order of the makams through the book is nice, seems that the next makam is related to the previous. This could give you an idea for obvious modulation.

Unfortunately the book doesn't leave a lot of space for an in depth look at each makam which is understandable. You get maybe one to three tricks about the seyir at best. Doesn't talk to much about pitch and for sure does not talk about modulation or Meyan and this I miss.

Regardless all in all it's very very worth having!!

Jono Oud N.Z - 5-27-2011 at 12:58 AM

Wow!!
Awesome.
I will have to get this book!!!

Jono Oud N.Z - 8-6-2011 at 06:50 PM

I recently got my University Library to buy this book and both the Cantemir books by Owen Wright.
This book is excellent.
It is very clear and useful for the non Turkish student of Turkish art music.
The seyir's of each makam are clearly defined and the examples are very useful, (in both the taksim and compositions).
It is very useful to be able to listen to the recordings (played on the Ottoman tanbur) and follow along in the book.


arsene - 9-14-2011 at 03:36 PM

Hi Jono,

which cantemir books are you referring to? I only know those by Eugenia Popescu-Judetz...

thanks!

[EDIT] found it... forgot there was such a thing as Amazon :))

Jono Oud N.Z - 9-14-2011 at 08:53 PM

They are pretty expensive!
Very good though:applause:,
the main book with the tunes in it has about 350 pieces.
I am working on transposing some pieces from it at the moment.


arsene - 9-18-2011 at 01:18 PM

Expensive? I got them for 23$ including shipping... Wondering now if I got the right ones: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0754602818

550 pages.... should be it, right? On Amazon it's 150$ but I could just buy it from "other sellers" for 12 bucks...

arsene - 9-18-2011 at 01:19 PM

By the way... I'd be extremely interested in your transcriptions of it!

Jono Oud N.Z - 9-19-2011 at 07:24 PM

True, my Uni brought both books, so I am not exactly sure how much they paid for them.

I will find out and would definitely be keen to own them, amazing books!

I had to reinstall Windows and have lost my transposition!!
How annoying!

Julian Weiss from Al Kindi has transcribed the same piece, but he has removed a couple of bars here and there, to make more coherent.
The piece is 'Bashraf Iraq Mukhalef', by Sayf Al Masry (Seyf El Misri).
His recording is on the 'Parfums Ottomans' album.
The CD comes with a few transcriptions too, very usefull.

http://www.amazon.com/Parfums-Ottomans-Arabic-Turkish-Court/dp/B000...