antonis - 9-6-2011 at 11:27 AM
Hello my fellow "woodmen"!
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I am playing oud for about 8 months now and although I've tried a couple of eastern traditional songs, my repertoire is unfortunately limited to
western music.
If anyone here would be so kind as to suggest a few traditional or contemporary eastern songs I could learn, I would be very grateful. What i am
looking for is slow- mellow-full of emotion stuff. Fast paced or dance songs not so much.
Titles, videos, sheet music - we accept everything! 
spyblaster - 9-6-2011 at 11:30 AM
i guess "Bint el Chalabiya" is exactly what you're lookin' for.
antonis - 9-6-2011 at 11:32 AM
This actually is one of "the couple" I've already tried.
Thanks though.
sylvainbd - 9-6-2011 at 01:28 PM
You can try "Lama badaa yatathana" ... interesting muwashahat samai in 10/8 ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaiEKfScxrw
Or this one ... more slowly !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ormCQIWVzNk&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL04402C888EDF0B07
You can find a beautiful version by hamza el din on "desert blues compilation" ...
Regards
antonis - 9-6-2011 at 02:05 PM
Beatifull song. I'll try it out.
Thanks
Marcus - 9-6-2011 at 09:36 PM
Hi Antonis,
even if you tried Bint shallabia already, you should listen to the version of the forum membet Luttgut from Norway.Very!! soulful playing!!If you
visit the homepage of his band Tiar dont forget to listen to "Arabisk pols" also.
Hope you enjoy it like do!
Marcus
arsene - 9-7-2011 at 06:04 AM
Cecen kizi is a piece that can be played very slow and very fast, and it's a standard in the Ottoman oud repertoire...
Slow (with taksim): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7bSYaHnNPY&feature=related
Medium: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IjQVOoRtnQ
Greek version (ta xula) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x6hK2c368o
antonis - 9-7-2011 at 06:16 AM
Thank you for all your answers!
I found the sheet music for Cecen kizi. I don't know if it is correct. If anyone wants it ....
Attachment: cecenkizi.TIF (22kB)
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antonis - 9-7-2011 at 06:18 AM
Another version ...
antonis - 9-7-2011 at 06:22 AM
Yet another one!
Wich one is more accurate to the traditional song?
arsene - 9-7-2011 at 06:27 AM
The middle one, as far as I can see it's the only one that accurately notated the Huseyni makam (I suppose the others are for instruments that can't
play quarter tones) although keep in mind that turkish notation is written a fourth high, so the first note should actually read "e" (mi), etc.
antonis - 9-7-2011 at 06:28 AM
thanks arsene I'll give it a go!
arsene - 9-7-2011 at 06:54 AM
A very effective way to get well-versed in the "oriental" repertoire is to study some semai's. Start with makams like ussak, huseyini, rast, niavent.
For example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ekc2d-jlMY (huseyni saz semai)
sheet: http://www.neyforum.biz/4images/details.php?image_id=5191&sessi...
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO9Ai5FlLRM (ousak saz semai)
Sheet: http://www.neyforum.biz/4images/details.php?image_id=2983&sessi...
antonis - 9-7-2011 at 07:01 AM
these are on turkish notation or standard?
Ararat66 - 9-7-2011 at 10:46 AM
Hi Antonis
There are a lot of very beautful and soulful Armenian pieces (and Greek no doubt) you might want to try. I have no notation but here are some
suggestions and the various versions you can listen to:
Sirdus Vera Kar Mu Ga - Udi Hrant Kenkulian
cd, Udi Hrant Early Recordings Vol 1.
Alan Shavarsh Bardezbanian
cd, Oud Masterpieces: From Armenia Turkey & Middle.
Richard Hagopian
cd, Best of Armenian Folk Music
Voch Me Dzaleeg - traditional !!
Sev Oror - traditional !! spine tingling version !!
Alan Shavarsh Bardezbanian
cd, Oud Masterpieces: From Armenia Turkey & Middle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZEgrmJK13A&feature=related
Some great pieces by Ara Dinkjian
The Invisible Lover - cd, An Armenian in America (& Night Ark, Petals on your path)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAoMNzh6m7E&feature=related ... comes in at about 4.00
Fly Away -cd, Petals on your path
Woman of Smyrna - Haig Yazdjian ... I love this ... not easy to play though, lovely timing
and also Karsilamas - Sokratis Sinopoulos / Periklis Papapetropoulos (from a fantastic cd of Greek music)
cd, Ethnic stories
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000R00NDC/ref=dm_sp_alb?ie=UTF8&a...
There are some lovely lullabies by Hasmik Haratounian (cd Armenian Lullabies http://www.amazon.com/Armenian-Lullabies/dp/B000QQWG1Y/ref=sr_shvl_... ) one in particular you may like is
Navei Oror
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ozY8LMwFAA
Koon Yeghir Balas - which Ara Dinkjian also plays on cd, Voice of Armenians by Onnik Dinkjian
and John Bilezikian on cd, Music From the Armenian Diaspora
here it is called 'lullaby'
and is all over Youtube as 'Oror'
I calculate this initial search could last you a lifetime
Cheers
Leon
alim - 9-7-2011 at 01:29 PM
Wow, any sheet music for the Ara Dinkjian songs (especially petals in your path)?
Thanks,
Ali-
antonis - 9-7-2011 at 01:39 PM
Well Ararat66, i think you covered me for now!
thnx
arsene - 9-8-2011 at 07:21 PM
@antonis - the sheets i posted last (the semais) are in Turkish notation. I do not have them in normal one
@ararat66 - thanks for linking to my video (voch me dzaleg)
here's the link to Sev Orer btw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVXoRHsPnMs
arsene - 9-8-2011 at 07:27 PM
Here's a nice PDF with short etudes for each makam, that should also help with getting acquainted with them a bit
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31614676/Turkish%20Music%20Makam%20Studies....
antonis - 9-9-2011 at 02:18 AM
Arsene first of all I thank you again, you are very helpful.
Secondly, is that really you playing 
??? How many years are you
practicing? If in 5 years i am half as good, i would be satisfied!
And thirdly, are you greek? Because in your mood it says "endaxei", wich in greek ( εντάξει ) it means "i'm ok"!
arsene - 9-9-2011 at 10:08 PM
Ahhh antonis if only it were me playing....! Alas, it is not me, but the great master himself (Alan Bardezbanian)... I meant to say I uploaded the
video of him playing... although I'm trying to get there! Soon, I will have songs of my own to upload, I just started with a new ensemble
I am Romanian, but often mistaken for a Greek... Not sure why http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/281374_1829876984326...
Ararat66 - 9-10-2011 at 12:05 AM
Arsene, you're dead right about those ...
... the tone and intensity on those Al Shavarsh Bardezbanian pieces are astounding, particularly the slow pieces where he allows lots of space for the
effect of each note and phrase to resonate and simmer.
I sometimes play these on a long car journey quite loud when I'm alone (no kids etc) and it makes the hairs on the back of my neck tingle.
Leon
Ararat66 - 9-10-2011 at 12:55 AM
Hi Arsese
That slow version of Cecen Kizi is wonderful, Huseyni is such an evokative mode - udi Necati Celik is a truly amazing player, breathtakingly good to
my ears (apparently you can breathe through your ears:cool
Leon
arsene - 9-10-2011 at 05:20 AM
Yep, it's wonderful rendition, I love how they put hicaz mandira in the middle there as well