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Dhafer Youssef, great fusion music

naddad - 3-7-2012 at 03:40 PM

For those who don't know him and enjoy fusion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2NT3O1dlGY&feature=related

fernandraynaud - 3-7-2012 at 09:24 PM

As to all of Youssef Dhafer's music, I love the more original non-jazz parts. When they fall into that standard shuffled bass-drums-piano jazz thing, I lose interest. It's largely the pianist who pulls it the way of his jazz chord roots.

naddad - 3-8-2012 at 02:26 AM

What time signature is the beginning? Can't figure it out

Jason - 3-9-2012 at 09:55 PM

I'm counting 7/8 or 7/4

luan - 3-10-2012 at 10:45 PM

Wow this is hard stuf. Amazing.
Tigran and Mark are on fire! (on the good sense, both have good taste)

naddad - 3-12-2012 at 01:41 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Jason  
I'm counting 7/8 or 7/4


The beats are better filled and accentuated in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtWZGIOtbEQ

I tried to transcribe it on a software, I think it's 17/8

This whole piece is so rhythmically complex... these musicians are so incredible.

luan - 3-12-2012 at 07:47 AM

7/8

naddad - 3-12-2012 at 12:42 PM

Actually luan now I've gotten pretty sure it's 17/8

luan - 3-12-2012 at 07:34 PM

The software transcribed it, or you did?

sylvainbd - 3-13-2012 at 01:07 AM

Hi

I think also 17/8.
With the oud we can hear : XXXX-XX-X-XXXX-X-

Crazy jazzman !!

naddad - 3-13-2012 at 01:55 AM

Quote: Originally posted by luan  
The software transcribed it, or you did?


I did, I just wrote it using a software because I'm not very good at reading music, so it helps me.
This is using guitar pro, oud tuning FADgcf.


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Aymara - 3-13-2012 at 10:49 AM

I love his album Digital Prophecy.

luan - 3-13-2012 at 12:20 PM

Yeah, just heard they play 737 most of the time. Some sections are either free or in another time sig.

time sig of Les Ondes Orientales

Laz - 1-29-2013 at 07:24 AM

The main theme from the beginning of the tune is in 17/8. Not sure how anyone would hear 7/8 or 7/4. Absolutely not. It wasn't the easiest odd time sig to fiqure out. The feel is 3 bars of 4 and a bar of 5. 12 + 5 = 17. Fantastic. The piano solo seems to be in 7/8. Three bars of 4 with 2 beats added on. 12 + 2 +14. I use to love fiquring these time sigs out. Now that I'm older I don't have the patience. This tune was so cool I couldn't resist.

Greg - 3-8-2015 at 03:33 AM

This link works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9INsERNFUo

The Correct Time

globaldrumming - 3-8-2015 at 11:51 AM

Dhafer Youssef - Odd Elegy

After searching around and getting many wrong answers I worked it out.

It's not too hard but you have to concentrate

It is 39/16

Yes you might think its strange but let me explain how to count it.

7/8 + 13/16 + 6/8

16 beats are too fast to count at this tempo so count it like this and note:

7/8 + 6.5/8 + 6/8

7 + 6.5 + 6

The 7* in the sequence below is only half a beat

1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6,7*,1,2,3,4,5,6

Enjoy!