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Le Trio Joubran- name that maqam!

ahmed_eissa - 8-9-2012 at 11:29 AM

I am a huge fan of Le Trio Joubran and a lot of their music has greatly influenced my oud playing. I've been sitting here doing some "ear training" by trying to learn this song, and in about 25 minutes or so (trying to work on my ear!), I figured out the main melody and was playing along to the song quite fluently.

The song gets a bit more complex towards the end with 3 overlapping ouds it made it hard for me to learn the whole song, but I am comfortable with what I have, for now.

In the main melody I learned, it only uses the notes B, C, D, E, F#, & G...and at the end of each phrase it seems to always resolve back to B.

My knowledge on Arabic music theory isn't that comprehensive, as I am mostly self taught. But, I checked maqam worlds's maqam index and didn't see any maqams starting on B. Only Bb and Bb(1/2).

http://www.maqamworld.com/maqamindex.html

Here's the actual song,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TFnz8sUVU4

Could anyone tell me what maqam this song is in?

stringmanca - 8-9-2012 at 12:07 PM

Kurd (Phrygian mode) transposed to B, I think. Very nice. Have you picked out the time signature on this song?

Oudbedis - 8-9-2012 at 12:30 PM

If it is a kurd transposed to B , the maqam will have both F#& Gb , theoretically

ahmed_eissa - 8-9-2012 at 12:35 PM

Quote: Originally posted by stringmanca  
Kurd (Phrygian mode) transposed to B, I think. Very nice. Have you picked out the time signature on this song?


Hmm, seems like Kurd transposed to B/ Phrygian mode could be it! As for the time signature..I was thinking it was in 6/8, but I'm not sure. Did you pick one out?

John Erlich - 8-9-2012 at 01:19 PM

Time signature sounds like 6/8 to me. I don't perceive any larger pattern to define is as 12/8 or something else, but I could be wrong.

Brian Prunka - 8-9-2012 at 01:31 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Oudbedis  
If it is a kurd transposed to B , the maqam will have both F#& Gb , theoretically


Kurd on B would have F# and G, not Gb.

B C D E F# G A B


Oudbedis - 8-9-2012 at 01:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka  
Quote: Originally posted by Oudbedis  
If it is a kurd transposed to B , the maqam will have both F#& Gb , theoretically


Kurd on B would have F# and G, not Gb.

B C D E F# G A B

That's right , there is no Gb , I made a mistake ^^"

stringmanca - 8-9-2012 at 02:24 PM

Yes, 6/8, of course. I was trying to find a longer phrase and missing the basic beat!