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Uskudara

Bodhi - 9-9-2012 at 05:56 AM

This popular Ottoman song, as many will know, is played across the the whole of the ex-Ottoman states and beyond. after extensive research I wish to post a selection of the best versions I have found from many regions, in no particular order:

This is a very traditionally played version from Turkey;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxdz01Zepo

This one more modern but quite good, also Turkey;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbY17Lr_wu4

This a Sephardic Jewish group in Spain;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wR1Z4oUnX8

This is also in Spain I am not sure is the violin player Spanish but seems probable, Western Violin with Tabla, quite nice;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlDt7c4r-Qs

Here are a few from Bosnia;
This in the Sevdalinka style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqlMZrhpLvE

This a newer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiXHSyGrCzo

These two are from Croatia;
this is live and very modern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WuOYGYt-Mw
the same group but the studio version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGO99dkid0o

Here I have saved the best for the last!!!:buttrock: Although quite modern and not entirely serious it gets my vote!!!

here you are, ENJOY;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWiCc_QhXLA

urus - 9-9-2012 at 04:21 PM

TWIMC
a research upon the subject
http://www.scribd.com/doc/80378769/Uskudara
:cool:

spartan - 10-2-2012 at 10:46 PM

So many Balkan and Middle East nations adopted this particular song.

This is a documentary about the song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18t0yNFWAWY&feature=related



More about the lyrics in different languages

http://everybodys-song.blogspot.gr/2009/01/whose-is-this-song-song-lyrics-in.html


More details about a project (see from p.24)

http://www.everybodys-song.net/download/bookletv2.pdf

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There is a more weird and funny story about the origin of this song....
A Scottish band of bagpipes played this piece for the first time in front of the Ottoman Sultan and after that the song became very popular...
But this is very hard to prove.....

jiggo - 10-3-2012 at 02:56 AM

Wonderful piece of music. I like the baglama version, probably because I'm turkish. :))

Bodhi - 10-3-2012 at 05:55 AM

I also like the Baglama version as one of my favourites, but im not Turkish:)

Regarding the thing about the Scottish band, it is definitely not a Scottish tune, their are no Scottish or British songs in the Nihavent Makam. However it is possible that a Scottish soldier could have written the melody whilst posted in Turkey! Perhaps the problem with this theory is that the song to this day does not exist in Scottish folk music, anyway its a romantic idea for this most international of songs.

John Erlich - 10-3-2012 at 01:38 PM

Arabic version - "Banat Iskandaria": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAQSUNoQRxg

Khalid_Salé - 10-3-2012 at 02:08 PM

Many Arab Sufis sing the tune with the poem 'Talama Ashku Gharami' ('My Love Ever Pains Me'):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdpCMG3ZQc

John Erlich - 10-3-2012 at 04:21 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Khalid_Salé  
Many Arab Sufis sing the tune with the poem 'Talama Ashku Gharami' ('My Love Ever Pains Me'):

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdpCMG3ZQc
[/url]
Thanks for the link!

-JE

maran - 10-3-2012 at 08:30 PM

Quote: Originally posted by jiggo  
Wonderful piece of music. I like the baglama version, probably because I'm turkish. :))


then you will probably like this one too

http://youtu.be/_JZsy7caeDs

John Erlich - 10-4-2012 at 03:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Khalid_Salé  
Many Arab Sufis sing the tune with the poem 'Talama Ashku Gharami' ('My Love Ever Pains Me'):

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdpCMG3ZQc
[/url]

Jews with roots in the Muslim world sometimes sing the piyyut (religious hymn), "Yodukha Rayonai" to this melody, also. I haven't been able to find an example on line, but will post if/when I find one.

Rambaldi47 - 10-4-2012 at 07:37 PM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
Quote: Originally posted by Khalid_Salé  
Many Arab Sufis sing the tune with the poem 'Talama Ashku Gharami' ('My Love Ever Pains Me'):

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erdpCMG3ZQc
[/url]

Jews with roots in the Muslim world sometimes sing the piyyut (religious hymn), "Yodukha Rayonai" to this melody, also. I haven't been able to find an example on line, but will post if/when I find one.


Here it is on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY7SPqSWsMI

I hear a brief Sahli taqsim at the beginning, the Algerian
equivalent of Nahawand.

This song brings back memories. I used to be religious,
and this song was often sung on Sabbaths dinners.

Branko - 10-5-2012 at 01:44 AM

Here is a jazz version by Lala Kovacev (R.I.P) Group. Melody is played as sung by Kosovo Serbs.

Bodhi - 10-5-2012 at 02:28 AM

Ej Branko brate moj,


Dolazi Srbin na hrvatsku granicu, prilazi mu hrvatski policajac i kaže mu na engleskom jeziku da pokaže svoje identifikacije i osobne podatke.
Dolazi do zanimanja i upita ga policajac:
- “Occupation?”
A Srbin kaže:
- “NO, no just visit!”

Pozdrav iz hrvatske i bosne:)

fernandraynaud - 10-5-2012 at 05:44 PM

That's a bit like the Russian who comes home dragging a bear.
His friend asks "Grizzly?" - "Nyet, strylayet!".

Greg - 10-5-2012 at 07:44 PM

And then there is this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOMw3oO27kM

Bodhi - 10-7-2012 at 12:07 PM

What a surreal and unexpectedly nice version.
Thanks Greg

sinanerdemsel - 10-13-2012 at 04:13 PM


This is my version of this song recorded for my American musician friends :)

http://www.helmmusic.com/music-shop-helm-istanbulda.htm
Quote: Originally posted by Bodhi  
This popular Ottoman song, as many will know, is played across the the whole of the ex-Ottoman states and beyond. after extensive research I wish to post a selection of the best versions I have found from many regions, in no particular order:

This is a very traditionally played version from Turkey;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLxdz01Zepo

This one more modern but quite good, also Turkey;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbY17Lr_wu4

This a Sephardic Jewish group in Spain;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wR1Z4oUnX8

This is also in Spain I am not sure is the violin player Spanish but seems probable, Western Violin with Tabla, quite nice;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlDt7c4r-Qs

Here are a few from Bosnia;
This in the Sevdalinka style
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqlMZrhpLvE

This a newer version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiXHSyGrCzo

These two are from Croatia;
this is live and very modern
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WuOYGYt-Mw
the same group but the studio version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGO99dkid0o

Here I have saved the best for the last!!!:buttrock: Although quite modern and not entirely serious it gets my vote!!!

here you are, ENJOY;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWiCc_QhXLA

mourad_X - 10-15-2012 at 01:45 AM

what about a heavy metal- :airguitar::buttrock::airguitar:
and a dub-reggae- version :cool:

best regards
mourad


John Erlich - 10-15-2012 at 10:10 AM

Quote: Originally posted by mourad_X  
what about a heavy metal- :airguitar::buttrock::airguitar:
and a dub-reggae- version :cool:

best regards
mourad



I don't know about a heavy metal version of "Uşkudara," but there is a heavy metal version of "Nora E-l Nora," a Jewish religious "pizmon" song in Hebrew, which borrows the melody from Karim Mahmoud's "Samra Ya Samra."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZUcWngEtcM :buttrock: