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Iqa3 or percussion software?

chaldo - 5-26-2014 at 10:36 AM

Hi all,

I am looking for a software than can play Iqa3 or middle eastern percussion to play oud with...

like daf or darbouka... in a loop

any help would be appreciated. thanks :)

Lysander - 5-26-2014 at 01:21 PM

Looks like you and I have very similar topics posted an hour or so apart.

Here is an old page where you can create some MIDI files through text. You can then download the MIDI and loop it. A little involved but OK I suppose.

http://www.khafif.com/rhy/rhygen.html

Something for people who want to go all out and do it properly:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/jun05/articles/wizoo.htm

More to do with tabla rather than darbouka, but a little graphical and could be worth a spin

http://taalmala.com/download.shtml

Here is a page where you can download some MIDI files

http://www.ancient-future.com/arab.html


ALAMI - 5-27-2014 at 11:33 AM

Midi rhythms sound awful, it is not something engaging to play along with.
A simpler approach is to get a sampled loops library, with real instruments recorded in the form of short wav audio clips, there are many of them covering mid eastern rhythms and using many different variations of each rhythm and different percussion instruments.

I then transfer the whole library to 'the Amazing Slow downer" on my iPhone .
http://www.ronimusic.com
This app has the ability to play loops perfectly and can change the tempo of the audio file.
I also use the same app to play along with music tracks and change their pitch to match my oud's tuning when needed.
At 15 $! It is an expensive App but it does 3 good jobs: slowdown, pitch shift and loop player.

The same can also be done using Garage Band (not the pitch change though), you can even create a more customized rhythm track that can still be loopable.

Lysander - 5-27-2014 at 12:57 PM

Quote: Originally posted by ALAMI  

A simpler approach is to get a sampled loops library, with real instruments recorded in the form of short wav audio clips, there are many of them covering mid eastern rhythms and using many different variations of each rhythm and different percussion instruments.


Any you would recommend?

Greg - 5-27-2014 at 06:23 PM

The Wizoo Darbuka software (vst) was removed from the market about eight years ago. A great pity as it is excellent. I still use it, but I don't know what will happen when I have to try to register it again when I update my computer. It cost several hundred dollars and I will not be a happy punter if I can no longer use it.

Greg

urus - 5-27-2014 at 09:38 PM

hi there.
sorry if anybody has a problem with 4shared again.
http://www.4shared.com/get/L6pcB2BP/i9a3at_3arabiya.html
two programs of iqa'at 'arabiya, flash-based, very simple.

Lysander - 5-28-2014 at 12:49 AM

Thanks for this urus, will download this later today. Looks promising.

Quote: Originally posted by Greg  
The Wizoo Darbuka software (vst) was removed from the market about eight years ago. A great pity as it is excellent. I still use it, but I don't know what will happen when I have to try to register it again when I update my computer. It cost several hundred dollars and I will not be a happy punter if I can no longer use it.

Greg


Greg, I think this topic will help you:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=5621894

I know Wizooverb isn't actually the same program but I'm sure the principle will be the same. It appears that Avid dropped authorisation of the thing... If I were you I would keep it where it is and if you have a spare or back up computer use that if possible. I haven't read the whole thread properly though.

Greg - 5-28-2014 at 05:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lysander  


I know Wizooverb isn't actually the same program but I'm sure the principle will be the same. It appears that Avid dropped authorisation of the thing... If I were you I would keep it where it is and if you have a spare or back up computer use that if possible. I haven't read the whole thread properly though.


Thanks Lysander. I have it running on two separate partitions on my Win 7 laptop (new hard drive) and also have it on a spare hard drive. So okay for the moment. Thanks, Greg.

chaldo - 5-28-2014 at 06:49 AM

thank you everybody for your help and for all these suggestions, I can't wait to go back home and try them out!!!

I live in a remote area and with no one to play oud with.. this will keep me company when I play oud! :)

Lysander - 5-28-2014 at 10:11 AM

Quote: Originally posted by urus  
hi there.
sorry if anybody has a problem with 4shared again.
http://www.4shared.com/get/L6pcB2BP/i9a3at_3arabiya.html
two programs of iqa'at 'arabiya, flash-based, very simple.


Thanks for uploading these. The E2A3 program is very useful, but can you explain what the category names are? My Arabic is not great. It is something like general percussion; darbuka; electro or something like that; and tabla?

Unforunately the i9a3at doesn't work for me, might just be a Windows 7 incompatibility.

EDIT: I got it to work by running it in compatibility mode for Windows 95! It's the better of the two programs as well, I think.

ALAMI - 5-29-2014 at 03:23 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Lysander  
Quote: Originally posted by ALAMI  

A simpler approach is to get a sampled loops library, with real instruments recorded in the form of short wav audio clips, there are many of them covering mid eastern rhythms and using many different variations of each rhythm and different percussion instruments.


Any you would recommend?


There are many of them, I like these guys:
http://www.bigfishaudio.com/detail.html?388

Here are some samples of Maqsum (plesae use winrar to unpack)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7467774/MAKSOUM%201.rar