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Seeking Simple Turkish Song Sheets

John Erlich - 8-26-2014 at 04:27 PM

Greetings, Fellow Oud Freaks,

I am looking for about 6 or so simple Turkish song sheets for lessons with my oud student. I am hoping to find some short songs that are not too "intimidating," without very high notes above the clef, and not too complex in terms of rhythm and meter. (I am going to try to make her play a very simple Greek song in 7/8, though.)

We read "concert" pitch (I am an Arabic-style player). We have worked with a lot of Lebanese debki, Qadud Halabiyya, and Fairuz songs. I want to find more Turkish songs to add to our lessons.

I have attached a sample of a perfect tune for my purposes.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated!

Teşekkür ederim,
"Udi" John

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DoggerelPundit - 8-27-2014 at 09:11 AM

Hi John,

Go here: http://neyzen.com/ney_klasik_eserler.html

Just click on the desired maqam to get its list of titles.

Each title links to a .pdf of the peshrev, semaisi, or sarki. Some have the lyric as well.

-Stephen

John Erlich - 8-27-2014 at 10:22 AM

Quote: Originally posted by DoggerelPundit  
Hi John,

Go here: http://neyzen.com/ney_klasik_eserler.html

Just click on the desired maqam to get its list of titles.

Each title links to a .pdf of the peshrev, semaisi, or sarki. Some have the lyric as well.

-Stephen


Thanks, Stephen! I've seen that site before--I appreciate your suggesting it and reminding me! While many of the charts are written in a high-ish register for Arabic-style oud, at least the charts are VERY clean and easy-to-read.

Jason - 8-27-2014 at 11:47 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  

Thanks, Stephen! I've seen that site before--I appreciate your suggesting it and reminding me! While many of the charts are written in a high-ish register for Arabic-style oud, at least the charts are VERY clean and easy-to-read.


I didn't have time to look at the sheets but if they're written for Turkish players they are probably transposed so that's why they look high.

John Erlich - 8-27-2014 at 06:42 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Jason  
Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  

Thanks, Stephen! I've seen that site before--I appreciate your suggesting it and reminding me! While many of the charts are written in a high-ish register for Arabic-style oud, at least the charts are VERY clean and easy-to-read.


I didn't have time to look at the sheets but if they're written for Turkish players they are probably transposed so that's why they look high.

Yes, exactly! The standard transposition of Turkish notation makes it difficult for those of us who read "concert" pitch notation. I am looking for Turkish songs written in the lower ranges, so as not to be too intimidating for beginning/intermediate Arabic-style players.

spartan - 8-27-2014 at 11:30 PM

It's very rare to find Turkish pieces in "Concert" pitch notation.
There are some pieces which are common in all traditions like Iskenderiya etc. but I think you will have access to these from arabic sites.

our member and friend from New Zealand made excellent transcriptions but most of the pieces are classical and Ottoman

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=13992#pid96...

another option is Jamil Bashir's book (but also have mostly Ottoman and Classical pieces)

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=6257&pa...

John Erlich - 8-28-2014 at 06:34 AM

Quote: Originally posted by spartan  
It's very rare to find Turkish pieces in "Concert" pitch notation.
There are some pieces which are common in all traditions like Iskenderiya etc. but I think you will have access to these from arabic sites.

our member and friend from New Zealand made excellent transcriptions but most of the pieces are classical and Ottoman

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=13992#pid96...

another option is Jamil Bashir's book (but also have mostly Ottoman and Classical pieces)

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=6257&pa...


Yassou Leonidas,

As they say, "Great minds think alike." I am actually going to the printer TODAY to pick up my hard copy print of our Kiwi pal's book. I have collected as many as Arabic/concert pitch sheets of Classical Turkish/Ottoman music as I could find (zeryab.com has a bunch), and you can get more by Google image searching the Arabic words for "sama'i notes." But these songs are a bit advanced for my student at this point. I am looking for simple, short songs she can learn to build confidence and start to enjoy hearing herself play. I also like to give her a variety of ethnicities of music (Arabic, Turkish, Persian, Greek, Armenian, Mizrahi-Jewish, etc.), so she can hear the different turns of melody they tend to use.

DoggerelPundit - 8-28-2014 at 08:23 AM

John,

Well, you could do the unthinkable and switch over to Turkish oud! :D

No? My drummer suggests software called Harmony Assistant, for transcription and changing keys (starting notes). Unfortunately, you must adjust any koma notes by hand.

Meanwhile, here is a fairly simple Armenian tune, curcuna rhythm from A. For an Arabic oud, just pretend it is from G. Heh.

-Stephen

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John Erlich - 8-28-2014 at 03:02 PM

Quote: Originally posted by DoggerelPundit  
John,

Well, you could do the unthinkable and switch over to Turkish oud! :D

No? My drummer suggests software called Harmony Assistant, for transcription and changing keys (starting notes). Unfortunately, you must adjust any koma notes by hand.

Meanwhile, here is a fairly simple Armenian tune, curcuna rhythm from A. For an Arabic oud, just pretend it is from G. Heh.

-Stephen



Switch to Turkish ud? Allah forbid it! "Fresno Bar" - that name makes this California boy laugh out loud :D Thanks for the curcuna. I am posting a very simple and familiar Armenian piece, "Hala, Hala, Hala Ninnoy," that I've played with my student.

Peace out,
"Udi" John