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Identifying these ouds

alejofar - 4-25-2017 at 12:43 PM

Hey Everyone,

I just came across a couple ouds and was wondering if anyone could help identify them.

Took some pics of the labels but I can't read Arabic.

Anyone familiar with these makers?

Thanks!

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Alfaraby - 4-25-2017 at 02:39 PM

First from the right:
Luthiery Art Workshop
Mohamad Amin Abrahim
First supervisor at Gamil George's , experience since 1956.
Mohamad Amin Abrahim st.
Giza
(Cairo, Egypt)

Second from the left:
Nariman !
This's Persian, not Arabic. Navid may help with this label.

What is your story behind these ouds ?
Please specify more.

Yours indeed
Alfaraby


bulerias1981 - 4-25-2017 at 10:36 PM

My Persian friend says this about the oud on the left "Hi John, it is hardly visible... I see there is a street address written in blue ink, and then a signature at the bottom. The printed black letter sonly says "Music". Can you get me another shot from a different angle?"

So I guess.. can we get a few more shots of the label?

markus - 4-26-2017 at 03:11 AM

just would like to add that mohammed amin Ebrahim is the brother of the last luthier Fathi Amin. I am not sure whether the 2nd one is Persian or not. more likely it was restored by the luthier in the label

BRAINOUD974 - 4-27-2017 at 09:51 AM

Hi,
The luthier is Nariman Abnoosian from Iran, more commonly known as "Nariman Abnoosi" and simply "Nariman" (1923-1982).
For more information: http://www.varjouds.com/Armenian%20ouds%20A%20thru%20H.htm
Yours

yavaran - 4-27-2017 at 11:20 AM

Where did you find that Nariman oud? Fantastic!

alejofar - 5-2-2017 at 02:20 PM

Hey Guys,

Thanks for your help in identifying these.

First off, these aren't mine. They were acquired by a music store in Chicago that I used to work at and they asked my help in identifying them.

They need some work, there are a few cracks here and there, clearly haven't been played in years. But I could tell they were interesting pieces.

They'll probably go up for sale online once we determine a fair price for them. If anyone wants more details on either of these please feel free to U2U me.

I added a clearer pic for the Nariman label.

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hartun - 5-16-2017 at 09:00 PM

In the Nariman label to the left of the name Nariman (printed) is written in Armenian script the name "Sahak"

Apparently this is Abnoosi's son who also made ouds. Perhaps he did repairs or even made this with his father's label.

hartun - 5-16-2017 at 09:02 PM

In the Nariman label to the left of the name Nariman (printed) is written in Armenian script the name "Sahak"

Apparently this is Abnoosi's son who also made ouds. Perhaps he did repairs or even made this with his father's label.

Nariman - 7-30-2019 at 03:56 PM

Hi,

Nariman Abnoosi is my grandfather and I'd love to find his instruments as a way to connect with my musical heritage.

Any guidance?

H