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Varnish of Sukar-bowl

Marcus - 7-10-2017 at 04:42 AM

Hi fellow oudies,
on my Sukar oud the varnish on the back of the bowl has damages.

I think it comes from sweating while playing.

How can I fix this and what do I have to use ?

Thanx in advance,

Marcus

Sukar.jpg - 146kB

Marcus - 7-11-2017 at 04:51 AM

Hellooooooo:wavey::wavey::wavey:

Nobody here who wants to help me?

SamirCanada - 7-11-2017 at 05:40 AM

the problem is we don't know what is the original varnish. I think it may be shellac because it has a bit of an orange tint but we cant tell for sure.

Either way you can use shellac. It will work. It can pretty much go on top of any varnish. Go for dewaxed shellac and it should work.

the technique is a bit complicated. I would recommend to very lightly sand (with 400 grit) the whole area to have a uniform surface. Then I would brush on a few light coat of shellac. let it dry and sand it a bit in between to uniform. next day I would do some French polishing of the area and try to blend it in. you may end up French polishing the whole instrument that way its a more even look.

good luck.

Marcus - 7-11-2017 at 09:12 PM

Dear Samir,:wavey:

thank you verx much!
I'll try shellac in the way you mentioned.

Greets,
Marcus

bulerias1981 - 7-12-2017 at 03:52 PM

Hard to tell from the photo but the wear doesn't look that bad. Honestly I've seen much worse. If it was my oud, honestly, I'd just leave it. Refinishing it might be more work than worth it. You can try a less labor intensive finish if you do decided to refinish your oud called "Tru-oil" but I find in the end it usually ends up to be more work than I originally anticipate.

bulerias1981 - 7-12-2017 at 03:53 PM

Hard to tell from the photo but the wear doesn't look that bad. Honestly I've seen much worse. If it was my oud, honestly, I'd just leave it. Refinishing it might be more work than worth it. You can try a less labor intensive finish if you do decided to refinish your oud called "Tru-oil" but I find in the end it usually ends up to be more work than I originally anticipate.

Marcus - 7-13-2017 at 04:23 AM

Hi John:wavey:

That sounds easy:D
I think I'll wait until it gets worse.

Actually it was my wife who have seen the "damage".As she knows how fussy I am, as soon as it comes to my ouds, she thought it might be better to point out than listen to my angryness if something goes wrong with the oud.


Maybe I should remove the sign on my musicroom-door that says:)
You can
borough my car
empty my beer-locker
try to sell my grandma..............but dont touch my instruments!!!

Cheers
Marcus

Alsamaraie - 7-20-2017 at 01:52 PM

I have the same issue only not to that extent. Only the shine has gone a little. I will try the same suggestion with the Shellac!

Omar Al-Mufti - 7-24-2017 at 01:33 AM

Dear...Sukkar uses shellac on the bowl. ...you can sand it with steel wool +++ and apply a couple of shellac coats if you know how to do french polishing.....if not...just give it to any luthier...it is an easy job

Omar Al-Mufti - 7-25-2017 at 12:03 AM

Dear...Sukkar uses shellac on the bowl. ...you can sand it with steel wool +++ and apply a couple of shellac coats if you know how to do french polishing.....if not...just give it to any luthier...it is an easy job