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Warmer High Treble

Badra - 2-9-2019 at 02:34 PM

Any suggestions on how to obtain a warmer sound on the high treble? I have a couple of arabic scale ouds, with highest strings tuned to cc or bb (half step down tuning). They sound ok but I feel they would sound better with a warmer/mellow sound. Anyone else had this issue? Any brand, model, guage, suggestions to get that warmer sound?

Jody Stecher - 2-9-2019 at 03:47 PM

In general gut is warmer than nylgut.
Nyglut is warmer than nylon.
Nylon is warmer than PVF

In general a wider diameter string will be warmer. But it can also be duller.

Also you can get a warmer sound with any type of string by plucking a bit further from the bridge.... contacting the string closer to sound hole than the pickguard would suggest.

Brian Prunka - 2-11-2019 at 11:53 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Jody Stecher  
In general gut is warmer than nylgut.
Nyglut is warmer than nylon.
Nylon is warmer than PVF

In general a wider diameter string will be warmer. But it can also be duller.

Also you can get a warmer sound with any type of string by plucking a bit further from the bridge.... contacting the string closer to sound hole than the pickguard would suggest.


I love how succinct your answer is, Jody.
I concur 100%. Also pick material has an effect, as well.

Each oud is different, but I have been very pleased with the Aquila "lute" rectified nylgut.

Rectified strings in general have a somewhat different character than plain strings. So rectified and plain nylon will sound different, rectified and plain nylgut will sound different. PVF is generally not rectified because of the physical characteristics of the material (it becomes too fragile).


Jody Stecher - 2-11-2019 at 04:47 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka  
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Each oud is different





That's why I wrote "in general" :-)

Badra - 2-12-2019 at 12:34 PM

Thanks guys, the oud matters a lot, not doubt. So we must speak in general terms. I'd say I'd prefer all three of my ouds to have a warmer high treble. One oud, a cedar top with nylgut, is very warm, almost too warm on the bass strings and middle plain dd, then loses that warmness on the two highest treble courses, especially the highest course. Sounds like a solution would be to try Aquila lute rectified nylgut. Thanks for the info.

Badra - 2-12-2019 at 12:56 PM

Brian, can you point me to the correct lute rectified nylgut string for cc on an Arabic scale oud. Is it .50? Also, do I need to purchase 2 to make a pair, or are they already a pair? Also, what would be the guage on the gg string?

Brian Prunka - 2-12-2019 at 02:38 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Badra  
Brian, can you point me to the correct lute rectified nylgut string for cc on an Arabic scale oud. Is it .50? Also, do I need to purchase 2 to make a pair, or are they already a pair? Also, what would be the guage on the gg string?


Well, there's not one "Arabic scale"—it's best if you have an actual measurement. The strings are single, so you need 2 to make a pair. Generally an Arabic oud will be .56-.62 for the c'c' pair and .73-.82 for gg, as a broad range. If you were to just get something in the middle, I'd say .58 or .60 and .76 or .79.

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