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oud tecnique books or links

danieletarab - 10-6-2019 at 05:43 AM

Hello dear oudists!
Is there any good Oud tecnique book for intermediate-advanced level out there? I play arabic style, but I guess that turkish style books would do the same. I am not intrested in maqam based books or any theory whatsoever. Only righ and left hand tecnique.
Also links to good youtube resources will be very welcomed!
Thank you very much indeed!
Daniele

elreyrico - 10-6-2019 at 11:12 AM

https://www.nakas.gr/prd/kasoiras-th-basilis-methodos-gia-oiti
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this book is my favorite, greek/ottoman repertoire, lots of 7/8 and 9/8 some semai, some good exercises with appliction to songs/instrumentals with written variations with increasing difficulty.
1-2 tunes per makam plus one original seyir example
it is in greek but it is not a problem

If you look for only etude exercises,
https://www.amazon.com/EXERCISES-BUILDING-TECHNIQUE-ALISTRIMALARI-EN...

anyway nothing replaces a teacher ... go to Houdetsi or another labyrinth place

danieletarab - 10-6-2019 at 01:13 PM

Thank you elreyico!
Actually, none of my 4 arabic teachers gave me any proper tecnique exercise so far! They taught me a lot about maqam and repertoire, but not many specific tecnique exercises. As far as my experience goes, the arabic method of teaching is quiete different than the western one.
The book you linked at the end looks intresting, but it's written with turkish notation, isn't it? I play in arabic tuning (cc to C). Shall I have to read the notes one tone lower?

Jason - 10-6-2019 at 02:29 PM

Quote: Originally posted by danieletarab  
Thank you elreyico!
Actually, none of my 4 arabic teachers gave me any proper tecnique exercise so far! They taught me a lot about maqam and repertoire, but not many specific tecnique exercises. As far as my experience goes, the arabic method of teaching is quiete different than the western one.
The book you linked at the end looks intresting, but it's written with turkish notation, isn't it? I play in arabic tuning (cc to C). Shall I have to read the notes one tone lower?


Turkish notation for oud is written a 4th up from the sounding note.. It can be confusing at first but you'll quickly learn to just read the intervals if that makes sense. Some more explanation about halfway down the page: http://www.daviderath.com/oud/tuning-notation

Jack_Campin - 10-6-2019 at 02:55 PM

You could try this (in French):

https://www.jjrebillard.fr/Mobile/la-methode-de-oud-c2x9240631

Too Arabic for me, I go more for Turkish approaches. I can't find my copy right now.

John Erlich - 10-7-2019 at 08:52 AM

Hi Daniele,

Do you have the Naseer Shamma etudes book? (A PDF of it has made the internet rounds.) If you want it, U2U me your email address, and I can fileshare it with you.

I have some other material I can share as well (Jamil Bashir's books, Salem Abdul Karem's exercise book, etc.)

Best,
"Udi" John

al-Halabi - 10-7-2019 at 12:40 PM

Daniele,

I think that the oud method of Charbel Rouhana (Maqam al-'Ud) might serve your needs well. The two volumes (some 450 pages in all) cover all aspects of technique from beginner level to advanced. The text is in English as well as Arabic and includes detailed guidance, with many accompanying exercises. The method also includes numerous pieces from the Arab and Ottoman repertoire, all in elegant notation.

bugaga - 10-7-2019 at 02:47 PM

Anyone knows where to order Charbel Rouhana's method? Was searching for it unsuccessfully.

al-Halabi - 10-7-2019 at 05:25 PM

Try Saint Anthony Maronite Church in Glen Allen, Virginia. They had copies of Rouhana's method for sale when I contacted them last year. I was going to buy the method from them but a Lebanese friend who happened to be in Beirut and knows Rouhana got me a copy from him.

The phone number of the church is (804) 270-7234. The church's website:

https://stanthonymaronitechurch.org/

suz_i_dil - 10-8-2019 at 01:42 AM

hello

Among those i have used for ressources in arabic style:

Oud method (exercice + repertoire)
Sharbel Rouhana
Jameel Bashir

compiled repertoire in a progressive way:

Ahmad Al Khatib
tunisian oud curriculum which has been shared here soon ago

Exercice book:
Salem Abdel Karem

Repertoire books:
Ruhi AL Khammash
Naseer Shamma
Mohammed Khaled Ali
Then you can get found many others of course, i have one for syrian and another for iraqi repertoire for exemple

Taqasim scores:
Ali Kisserwan
A study of the taqasim for Riad an Sunbati by Kareem Roustom (thesis work)

Ali Kisserwan, Ahmad Al Khatib and Sharbel Rouhana are still edited. For AHmad Al Khatib books, i think possible by contacting the Birzeit university
Sharbel ROuhana method is very nice by the way
For the others should be found online i think, or let us know which are the one of interest for you to see if we can help to get them.

Brian Prunka - 10-8-2019 at 07:42 AM

I'm curious about the Ruhi al Khammash book, where did you find that?

danieletarab - 10-8-2019 at 12:39 PM

Thanks to all of you and especially to John who kindly sent me, among several pdf resources, the nasser shamma exercise book!
I would say it's quiet advanced, if the aim is to do the exercises at the suggested bpm speed! I have gone through the first 2 exercises (the second one is supposed to be done at impossible speed for me) and I find it very intresting!

Jody Stecher - 10-8-2019 at 09:45 PM

Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka  
I'm curious about the Ruhi al Khammash book, where did you find that?


Me too!

suz_i_dil - 10-9-2019 at 04:15 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Brian Prunka  
I'm curious about the Ruhi al Khammash book, where did you find that?


i will check later at home and give you reference for it. Maybe i still have it as an electronic ressource. I guess i found it among an arabic forum looking for ressources from the iraqi heritage

BTW this thread wake me up on working Sharbel Rouhana method :) really good to take it from the beginning, though some exercices are really challenging.

suz_i_dil - 10-9-2019 at 11:08 AM

So the whole title is
the musician Ruhi al Khammash and his influence on the iraqi music
form Habib Zaher el Abbas
edited in Iraq in 1999
الموسيقار روحي الخماش وتأثيره في الموسيقى العراقية
حبيب ظاهر العباس

All in arabic, inside you will find many scores for vocal pieces and also instrumental, samay and others

I found back the ressource, it is from the web page the 7th string
http://www.watar7.com/PDFModule_Details.php?ID=5



alim - 10-9-2019 at 06:24 PM

Hello suz_i_dil,

That is a great reference (on Khammash). For those that read Arabic, there is an analysis of some of the Mushahat he composed with a lot of details. Also his grades from the music academy and his Iraqi naturalization documents (he was born in Nablus Palastine)!

Ali-

Jody Stecher - 10-10-2019 at 06:19 AM

Quote: Originally posted by suz_i_dil  
So the whole title is
the musician Ruhi al Khammash and his influence on the iraqi music
form Habib Zaher el Abbas
edited in Iraq in 1999
الموسيقار روحي الخماش وتأثيره في الموسيقى العراقية
حبيب ظاهر العباس

All in arabic, inside you will find many scores for vocal pieces and also instrumental, samay and others

I found back the ressource, it is from the web page the 7th string
http://www.watar7.com/PDFModule_Details.php?ID=5





Thank you!

coolsciguy - 12-23-2021 at 06:19 PM

Quote: Originally posted by suz_i_dil  
hello

Among those i have used for ressources in arabic style:

Oud method (exercice + repertoire)
Sharbel Rouhana
Jameel Bashir

compiled repertoire in a progressive way:

Ahmad Al Khatib
tunisian oud curriculum which has been shared here soon ago

Exercice book:
Salem Abdel Karem

Repertoire books:
Ruhi AL Khammash
Naseer Shamma
Mohammed Khaled Ali
Then you can get found many others of course, i have one for syrian and another for iraqi repertoire for exemple

Taqasim scores:
Ali Kisserwan
A study of the taqasim for Riad an Sunbati by Kareem Roustom (thesis work)

Ali Kisserwan, Ahmad Al Khatib and Sharbel Rouhana are still edited. For AHmad Al Khatib books, i think possible by contacting the Birzeit university
Sharbel ROuhana method is very nice by the way
For the others should be found online i think, or let us know which are the one of interest for you to see if we can help to get them.


Hi folks,

Anyone knows where to get a copy of Ahmad Al Khatib books?

Thanks

John Erlich - 12-23-2021 at 11:38 PM

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Hi folks,

Anyone knows where to get a copy of Ahmad Al Khatib books?

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If mean the 4 books of repertoire, "Sharqiyat," transcribed by Ahmad Al-Khatib for the Edward Said Conservatory at Bir Zeit University, I have them. I could email or fileshare them. How do you want to make contact? Are you on Facebook?

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coolsciguy - 12-24-2021 at 04:57 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  

If mean the 4 books of repertoire, "Sharqiyat," transcribed by Ahmad Al-Khatib for the Edward Said Conservatory at Bir Zeit University, I have them. I could email or fileshare them. How do you want to make contact? Are you on Facebook?


Hi John,

Thanks for the kind offer, I sent you a private message.

OudSwede - 12-24-2021 at 05:13 AM

Hi!

I am also traing to ordnament the songs I play…

However, I can recommend the Tareq Jundi fourth oud course. It focuses on just how to ornament songs. Its in English and can be found on https://izif.com/en/course/Oud/oud-video-tutorials

It requires a monthy subscription of $19, but then you will get all available courses and the pdf-s for each course.

Merry Christmas to you all!

/Viktor