I'm having a hard time figuring out what the highlighted portions say. Any ideas?Elie Riachi - 3-20-2005 at 05:11 PM
The top says something like: "Release of the Yakah", or "Start of" or "Beginning of" or "Muzzle of, such in guns"
The bottom: "and sons"Jameel - 3-20-2005 at 05:18 PM
"release of the yakah"??
That sounds like an episode of the original Star Trek series!
Seriously, it must be the beginning of the maqam cycle, you think?
Thanks, Elie.Elie Riachi - 3-20-2005 at 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Jameel
"release of the yakah"??
That sounds like an episode of the original Star Trek series!
Seriously, it must be the beginning of the maqam cycle, you think?
Thanks, Elie.
Most likely like you said the beginning of a maqam cycle. I think Yakah means 4?? in Turkish?? not sure.ztochaztik - 3-20-2005 at 10:41 PM
here it could be something like:
infinite yakah
absolute yakah
yakah unlimited
I mean this might be 'moutlaq' not 'moutliq'
not sure though
RegardsAziz - 3-21-2005 at 02:49 AM
Hi All
I think this is not arabic, this is Persian.
RegardsElie Riachi - 3-21-2005 at 07:43 AM
Hi Jameel,
It is refering to the begining of Yakah maqam cycle. There is a maqam called Yakah.oudmaker - 3-21-2005 at 09:04 AM
Hello Jameel
Can you show us the whole writing. What is it? Is it an oud rossette?
DincerJameel - 3-21-2005 at 09:49 AM
Hello Mr. Dalkilic,
It is a rosette from a 1917 Abdo Nahat.Multi Kulti - 3-21-2005 at 09:57 AM
oudmaker - 3-21-2005 at 10:29 AM
It is just beautiful !
I read the top part as MUTLAK YEGAH
Yegah means "first place-first home- first place" in Ottoman Turkish combining Persian "Yek" and "Gah". We also use same when we call DU-GAH SE-GAH,
CHAR-GAH, PENC-GAH. They also are the names of makams as well as notes.
Yegah is considered the mother of makams by some music theorists like Meragi and Rauf Bey. I can assume the MUTLAK is to identify the importance of
the makam YE-GAH. I do not know or heard of a makam called "Mutlak yegah"
Just a thought!!
Regards
DincerDavid Parfitt - 3-21-2005 at 10:48 AM
Hi Jameel
Is it just this phrase you are stuck on, or do you need help with the rest of the text in the outer circles?
Best wishes
DavidBin Ayoub - 3-21-2005 at 11:24 AM
Upper one is مطلق يكاه which is maybe a name Cause in kuwait we have Motlaq The middle one is abdu
nahat the last is and his sons, so its Abdu nahat and sons, the upper is Motlaq yakah maybe they mean the maqam Yakah, maybe Bin Ayoub - 3-21-2005 at 11:27 AM
bro if you take a look under the number 47 they wrote Jaw alhijaz, the feeling or condition of hijaz, 47 is jaw alnawa and he is talking about maqams
so the yakah thing is about the maqam i hope i helped
best regards,
Shamlan Al-AyoubBin Ayoub - 3-21-2005 at 11:37 AM
1 to 3 i cant read them
4- Ushiran
5&6 something about Ajam
7- Iraq
34- mahur
32-Nahfat
31-Awj
30-Ajam
17-Sikah
40-Sunbulah(Nahawand Murassah)
38-Muhayyer
21-Araban (Shad araban)
14-Dokah
10-rast
20-Jaharkah
19-Bousleek
16-Kurdi
24-Nawa
22-Hijaz
That what i got for now i'll try my best to read the other words of this puzzle, i liked it making me intrested David Parfitt - 3-21-2005 at 11:47 AM
Hi
I think the outer circle just lists the names of the notes in Arabic:
1 = qarar nim hisar
2 = qarar hisar
3 = qarar tik hisar
etc.
Inside that, the 14 divisions seem to be "burj al-ashiran", "burj al-iraq", etc., corresponding to the groups of notes above??
Inside that, I can't make out much at all, but there seems to be a "buselik", "isfahan" and an "ushaq" amongst it!!
Hopefully this is some help.
Davidoistrach13 - 3-23-2005 at 06:45 AM
Moutlaqul Yekah is definitely not the release of the yekah, that would be "Itlaqul Yekah" in arabic, the way this reads is something very close to
saying: "the released yekah", I am almost sure he means the open G string as opposed to a fingered G.Faladel - 3-23-2005 at 06:54 AM
Hi:
oistrach13 .....absolutely correct, Mutlaq el Yekah is open G string . this is the teaching of my old oudprofessor in Aleppo. Mike - 3-31-2005 at 01:25 AM
Hi Jameel,
Mutlaq in strings is an "open string" and Yagah is the low "G string"
"fladel" !!! is right.
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