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New Single - Tears of the Pearl

byetkin - 12-27-2020 at 11:02 AM

New single is out now! It’s on all digital platforms.
I dedicated this improvisation to the musicians who have been suffering because of the pandemic and governments’ actions against the musicians during the pandemic. I hope everything will be fine again, soon.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0xr2xn0UmEUYewtJF6defF?si=GS1iHogeSGG...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvvNFjo-kDs&list=OLAK5uy_n897wVa...

John Erlich - 12-28-2020 at 12:03 AM

Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
New single is out now! It’s on all digital platforms.
I dedicated this improvisation to the musicians who have been suffering because of the pandemic and governments’ actions against the musicians during the pandemic. I hope everything will be fine again, soon.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0xr2xn0UmEUYewtJF6defF?si=GS1iHogeSGG...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvvNFjo-kDs&list=OLAK5uy_n897wVaFBhmyQko9WdINeFJffWNRZp_h8
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Thanks for posting the recording. I enjoyed it. Maybe this is not the place for a Facebook-type discussion, but I am curious what "...governments' actions against the musicians during the pandemic" you are referring to. I know from the media and talking to friends that the lockdowns have been more strict in Europe, Turkey & Israel (etc.) than in here in the USA. But, in my experience, the US federal and state governments (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, so the strictest region in the strictest US state), and I don't believe our government has done anything that wasn't warranted by the pandemic. In the USA, Covid-19 deaths (now 333,000) are set to soon surpass US military deaths in World War 2 (408,000). The world has lost at least one famous oud player to Covid-19: https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/renowned...

John Erlich - 12-28-2020 at 12:06 AM

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/bassam-saba-prominent-fi... :(

byetkin - 1-20-2021 at 04:54 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
New single is out now! It’s on all digital platforms.
I dedicated this improvisation to the musicians who have been suffering because of the pandemic and governments’ actions against the musicians during the pandemic. I hope everything will be fine again, soon.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0xr2xn0UmEUYewtJF6defF?si=GS1iHogeSGG...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvvNFjo-kDs&list=OLAK5uy_n897wVaFBhmyQko9WdINeFJffWNRZp_h8
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Thanks for posting the recording. I enjoyed it. Maybe this is not the place for a Facebook-type discussion, but I am curious what "...governments' actions against the musicians during the pandemic" you are referring to. I know from the media and talking to friends that the lockdowns have been more strict in Europe, Turkey & Israel (etc.) than in here in the USA. But, in my experience, the US federal and state governments (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, so the strictest region in the strictest US state), and I don't believe our government has done anything that wasn't warranted by the pandemic. In the USA, Covid-19 deaths (now 333,000) are set to soon surpass US military deaths in World War 2 (408,000). The world has lost at least one famous oud player to Covid-19: https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/renowned...


Hi, I don't involve any politics but I'm really pissed off to hear from governments to stop music when bad things happen in the world, for almost all countries. I live in London and during the Brexit process and pandemic UK refused the EU's offer about free traveling for musicians. Even the musician union tries to help musicians there is no performance, probably till 2022 in the UK. As you can see from the report UK is one of the worst countries on the pandemic list. The economy minister told that musicians and artists should find a new job for themselves, can you imagine that? Otherwise, thankfully they try to give everyone some money to survive themself. It's a thing, at least.
Another example; in Turkey, the government didn't help them to pay their rent, bills, and other basic expenses. More than 100 musicians suicided, some started using drugs, some has serious mental issues. And these are not just for Turkish musicians it happens in everywhere.
Anyway, this the real world and I dedicated my single and improvisation to those who have suffered and have been suffering. It's meaningful for me.

John Erlich - 1-21-2021 at 10:24 PM

Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
New single is out now! It’s on all digital platforms.
I dedicated this improvisation to the musicians who have been suffering because of the pandemic and governments’ actions against the musicians during the pandemic. I hope everything will be fine again, soon.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0xr2xn0UmEUYewtJF6defF?si=GS1iHogeSGG...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvvNFjo-kDs&list=OLAK5uy_n897wVaFBhmyQko9WdINeFJffWNRZp_h8
[/url]
Thanks for posting the recording. I enjoyed it. Maybe this is not the place for a Facebook-type discussion, but I am curious what "...governments' actions against the musicians during the pandemic" you are referring to. I know from the media and talking to friends that the lockdowns have been more strict in Europe, Turkey & Israel (etc.) than in here in the USA. But, in my experience, the US federal and state governments (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, so the strictest region in the strictest US state), and I don't believe our government has done anything that wasn't warranted by the pandemic. In the USA, Covid-19 deaths (now 333,000) are set to soon surpass US military deaths in World War 2 (408,000). The world has lost at least one famous oud player to Covid-19: https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/renowned...


Hi, I don't involve any politics but I'm really pissed off to hear from governments to stop music when bad things happen in the world, for almost all countries. I live in London and during the Brexit process and pandemic UK refused the EU's offer about free traveling for musicians. Even the musician union tries to help musicians there is no performance, probably till 2022 in the UK. As you can see from the report UK is one of the worst countries on the pandemic list. The economy minister told that musicians and artists should find a new job for themselves, can you imagine that? Otherwise, thankfully they try to give everyone some money to survive themself. It's a thing, at least.
Another example; in Turkey, the government didn't help them to pay their rent, bills, and other basic expenses. More than 100 musicians suicided, some started using drugs, some has serious mental issues. And these are not just for Turkish musicians it happens in everywhere.
Anyway, this the real world and I dedicated my single and improvisation to those who have suffered and have been suffering. It's meaningful for me.


So, you are saying that governments should be SUPPORTING musicians better, while we can't work, due to Covid? Thanks for clarifying; I can definitely get behind that. It's just that, in the USA, we have a LOT of people who are resisting safety measures intended to stop the spread of Covid-19; we recently had a president who set a terrible example, by refusing to wear a mask himself, and forcing others around him not to. Since I last posted, US Covid-19 deaths have now SURPASSED US military deaths in World War 2. :( Hopefully, things will soon get better, and I can get back to performing our beautiful Middle Eastern music in front of an audience!

byetkin - 4-25-2021 at 10:37 AM

Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
Quote: Originally posted by John Erlich  
Quote: Originally posted by byetkin  
New single is out now! It’s on all digital platforms.
I dedicated this improvisation to the musicians who have been suffering because of the pandemic and governments’ actions against the musicians during the pandemic. I hope everything will be fine again, soon.

https://open.spotify.com/album/0xr2xn0UmEUYewtJF6defF?si=GS1iHogeSGG...

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvvNFjo-kDs&list=OLAK5uy_n897wVaFBhmyQko9WdINeFJffWNRZp_h8
[/url]
Thanks for posting the recording. I enjoyed it. Maybe this is not the place for a Facebook-type discussion, but I am curious what "...governments' actions against the musicians during the pandemic" you are referring to. I know from the media and talking to friends that the lockdowns have been more strict in Europe, Turkey & Israel (etc.) than in here in the USA. But, in my experience, the US federal and state governments (I live in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, so the strictest region in the strictest US state), and I don't believe our government has done anything that wasn't warranted by the pandemic. In the USA, Covid-19 deaths (now 333,000) are set to soon surpass US military deaths in World War 2 (408,000). The world has lost at least one famous oud player to Covid-19: https://www.voanews.com/science-health/coronavirus-outbreak/renowned...


Hi, I don't involve any politics but I'm really pissed off to hear from governments to stop music when bad things happen in the world, for almost all countries. I live in London and during the Brexit process and pandemic UK refused the EU's offer about free traveling for musicians. Even the musician union tries to help musicians there is no performance, probably till 2022 in the UK. As you can see from the report UK is one of the worst countries on the pandemic list. The economy minister told that musicians and artists should find a new job for themselves, can you imagine that? Otherwise, thankfully they try to give everyone some money to survive themself. It's a thing, at least.
Another example; in Turkey, the government didn't help them to pay their rent, bills, and other basic expenses. More than 100 musicians suicided, some started using drugs, some has serious mental issues. And these are not just for Turkish musicians it happens in everywhere.
Anyway, this the real world and I dedicated my single and improvisation to those who have suffered and have been suffering. It's meaningful for me.


So, you are saying that governments should be SUPPORTING musicians better, while we can't work, due to Covid? Thanks for clarifying; I can definitely get behind that. It's just that, in the USA, we have a LOT of people who are resisting safety measures intended to stop the spread of Covid-19; we recently had a president who set a terrible example, by refusing to wear a mask himself, and forcing others around him not to. Since I last posted, US Covid-19 deaths have now SURPASSED US military deaths in World War 2. :( Hopefully, things will soon get better, and I can get back to performing our beautiful Middle Eastern music in front of an audience!


Yes, John and thanks for your understanding.
I hope things will be better soon.
All the best,