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the Lute in the Middle Ages: Oud--->Laud--->Liuto

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-4-2005 at 01:50 AM

"The Arabs of Spain and Sicily were the first to bring the lute to Europe. It eas found exclusively in Italy and Iberian <b>wrench</b>ula until the 14th century, when its use extended to the rest of the continent. The fact that the instrument was easy to play and to carry, and loaned itself to the execution of all the voices of a polyphonic composition assured its considerable popularity during the Renaissance"

Francis Biggi (scholar and liuto player)

click on:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2165979/Guillaume_de_Machaut__ca.1300-13...

select "free" and wait 70 seconds

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-4-2005 at 10:57 PM

The Medieval Lute

The Cobza (tuned to D-A-D-G)

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-4-2005 at 11:00 PM

"The Hungarian medieval lute was known as the koboz and the this term is also used by the Hungarians for simpler Romanian cobza when played by Hungarians in Romania."

mavrothis - 6-4-2005 at 11:56 PM

Interesting. I like the second photo a lot. :)

Stefan Andalus - 6-5-2005 at 07:58 PM

How can I get in touch with the maker of the first, elaborately decorated instrument? I would like to purchase one for accompaniments of "Las Cantigas de Samta Maria" What a beautiful instrument!!! Thank you very much, Dr. Stefan-Louis Bayne

Stefan Andalus - 6-5-2005 at 08:00 PM

I forgot that my email address, for information about the little lute, is MRBAYNE@sbcglobal.net. Many thanks again, Stefan-Louis Bayne

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-5-2005 at 11:34 PM

hi Stefan,

for information about the little lute you can visit: http://www.ensembleoliphant.com/


ciao

Cantigas de Santa Maria

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-8-2005 at 03:27 AM

two images of lute players in distinctive Christian costume from The Cantigas de Santa Maria de Alfonso X el Sabio (1221-1284), 13th century music manuscript

Cantigas de Santa Maria

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-8-2005 at 03:39 AM

click on:
http://rapidshare.de/files/2258465/Nas_Mentes_-_from_the_Cantigas_d...

select "free" and wait 70 seconds

pepbcn - 6-8-2005 at 05:40 AM

hi Stefan,
In Spain there are some builders who do this type of Oud you can see some in the following links.
Also there is a luthier in Casablanca Belhaiba Khalib that has made Ouds of this type for the group “cinco siglos”, you can see photos in the web


http://ret007ei.eresmas.net/reolid/p-instrumentos.html
http://www.cincosiglos.org/index.htm
http://www.musicamudejar.com/eng/principal_eng.html
interviews with the luthier Carlos Paniagua
http://www.formaantiqva.com/entrevistas/entver.php?entID=3

Medieval Lute

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-8-2005 at 10:15 AM

another beautiful picture...

The Medieval Lute

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 6-17-2005 at 01:08 PM

harmonic plane in the Middle Ages

kasos - 6-17-2005 at 01:36 PM

Beautiful old documents and artwork. Thanks!

Kasos

a new photo

oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 5-17-2006 at 02:32 AM

I've found this photo: Claudia Caffagni of the ensemble La Reverdie with a medieval lute


http://www.lareverdie.com/

John Erlich - 5-17-2006 at 10:25 AM

Though not as pretty as Ms. Caffagni, Jacob Heringman is an excellent lutenist based in London. His brother is married to my wife's cousin, so we're family, sort of...

http://www.heringman.com/

Best,
Udi John

radixfc - 5-18-2006 at 08:16 AM

:buttrock:
I´m having a similar lute for a while at home, from a luthier from pamplona (Evaristo Bretos)... here´s a photo

radixfc - 5-18-2006 at 08:24 AM

... the photos:rolleyes:

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oud_laud_luth_lute_liuto - 5-18-2006 at 09:16 AM

Hi,

another similar lute...


:)

DJdog - 5-18-2006 at 09:22 AM

I've just completed the manuscript for five of the "Cantigas de Santa Maria", written for small ensemble - one plucked string instrument, one bowed string instrument, one wind instrument and one percussion instrument. In a month or so I will do a studio recording of these cantigas, and will publish the sheet music. I will be playing oud on these recordings, but it would be nice to vary the playing by using a little medieval lute like the one you show. Would it be possible for you to let us know how to contact the luthier who makes the instrument in the photo? It's beautiful!

al-Halabi - 5-18-2006 at 11:27 AM

Here's the site of a Spanish luthier who specializes in medieval stringed instruments. Beautiful pieces.

http://ret007ei.eresmas.net/reolid/index.html

DJdog - 5-18-2006 at 11:56 AM

Muchos gracias. Merci beaucoup. Danke schoen. THANKS!!Asalaam aleikum.

Ronny Andersson - 5-18-2006 at 12:58 PM

Here's one Italian maker with some interesting reconstructions!
http://xoomer.virgilio.it/liuteriassisi/medioevo.html

Ronny Andersson - 5-18-2006 at 01:07 PM

Here a fantastic site with some wonderful workshop pictures!
http://www.liuteriagiordanoceccotti.com/

Ronny Andersson - 5-18-2006 at 01:11 PM

One more!
http://www.liuteriaseverini.it/schede.htm

Ronny Andersson - 5-19-2006 at 04:43 AM

Medieval lute by Giordano Ceccotti.

zalzal - 5-19-2006 at 05:29 AM

Well not really medieval but may be of interest, specially for Kasos and his Marco Polo project:

In fact a french baroque musicien is presently performing in Syria mixing his ensemble xviii-21 with syrian classical arabic one called Twais. It is a kind of official french culture funded exchange. Since a year more or less they have prepared a hommage to Pietro della Valle a XVIth century italian misician-voyageur to Turkey, Ottoman, India etc, where he learned languages and music.

Here is a link to the web of xviii-21
http://www.xviii-21.com/english/engpresentation/engpresentation.htm

And this one with some info on the project.
http://www.babelmed.net/index.php?menu=31&cont=2093&lingua=...

What it is not clear for me is whether the concerts are with the two ensembles performing together at the same time or one after the other.

A cd may be published after summer this year.

Excuse me if i divert fm the central subject of this post
May be should be better to open another topic Baroque Lute.

Also i become curious to know more on musical collaborations between medieval and baroque lutes with present arabic ouds. What could be the sound of those instruments played together ?

Finally i read i think somewhere in this forums that baroque music was "chromatically" near the arabic music. Wasn't you Stephan Andalous ?