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Cinucen Tanrikorur's Nihavent Saz Semaisi

oudmaker - 9-4-2005 at 01:28 AM

Lots of people sent me emails requesting written music of Cinucen Tanrikorur's Nihavent Saz semaisi. Now thanks to his student Miss Basak Ilhan now I have it. Just respond to this post with your email address I will gladly send you.
Dincer

Jameel - 9-4-2005 at 04:41 AM

kalliopios (at) mchsi.com

Thanks Dincer!!

mavrothis - 9-4-2005 at 08:42 AM

Hello Dincer,

I would love to have this sheet music. Thanks to you and to udi Cinucen's student Basak Ilhan.

mavrothis@oudcafe.com

Thanks!

mav

Semaisi

spyrosc - 9-4-2005 at 10:28 AM

May I please have it too ?

Thanks
Spyros C.

spycamsc@netscape.net

LeeVaris - 9-4-2005 at 11:23 AM

Hi Dincer,

Please put me on the list as well-

varis@varis.com

Thanks!

Brian Prunka - 9-4-2005 at 11:26 AM

I would also like to have it . . .

brianprunka [at] brianprunka [dot] com

samzayed - 9-4-2005 at 01:39 PM

Me too, please

samzayed [at] hotmail [dot] com

Thank you so much

Jonathan - 9-4-2005 at 06:30 PM

Thanks, Dincer. Please include me.
varjouds@aol.com

Haluk - 9-4-2005 at 08:44 PM

Hello Dincer,

Please send me also to my "halukeraydin@yahoo.com" adress.

Thank you in advance.
HALUK ERAYDIN

oudmaker - 9-5-2005 at 09:51 AM

Hi Folks
I sent it to all above addresses. If you get it or not let me know
Dincer

kasos - 9-5-2005 at 03:37 PM

Hi...I'm a little late on getting in my request, but, if it's still possible, could I get one too, at mkolt@city.flinflon.mb.ca?. Thanks, Mark

pepbcn - 9-5-2005 at 10:41 PM

Hello Dincer,

Please can send me also to my,

pep_luna@yahoo.es

Thanks

udi19002000 - 9-6-2005 at 04:43 AM

Mr Dincer
can you send it to me too pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :bounce:

udi19002000@yahoo.gr

Thanks

oudmaker - 9-6-2005 at 05:26 PM

udi19002000, Did you get it?
pepbcn, I had some problem to email to you, Do you have another email address?
Dincer

amarock - 9-6-2005 at 07:12 PM

Hi Dincer
I'd like to get it too
Thank you
brunop4@yahoo.fr

LeeVaris - 9-6-2005 at 07:25 PM

Thank Dincer - I received the music!

It might be easier for you to simply post this on Mikes site at the file sharing section.

amarock - 9-9-2005 at 04:36 AM

Hi all
I have a little problem with this samai.
I play arabic oud with the standart tunning.
The notes here are turkish notes.
In wich scale it's better to learn and play it:Nihawand on C,or nihawnad on D.
I heard the performance of Shaheen,but it was not clear for me in wich scale he played it?
Can you help?
Bruno

oudmaker - 9-9-2005 at 08:24 PM

Dear Amarock
Your tuneing is not a problem unless you try to play along with a recording. Otherwise regardless of the pich, just assume 3rd finger on 4th string from the bottom is your G; then you will be using Turkish notes. If you are experienced player that capable to play this Semai, I am sure to play this way will be no problem for you. Good Luck
Regards
Dincer

al-Halabi - 9-10-2005 at 06:51 AM

Amarock,

Dincer's suggestion is a good one. If you can adjust to the Turkish notation you should be able to play the piece, which is in makam Nihavend (Arabic Nahawand) with the tonic on the note rast. In Turkish notation the notes are written a fifth higher than in Arab notation, so the note rast for example will be written as a G (equivalent to what would be nawa, second open string, in Arab notation) instead of the lower C. You could rewrite the piece in Arab notation, which will make it easier for you if that's what you are most comfortable with. Just transpose everything a fifth lower.

Shaheen's performance is in D. If you want to play along with it you will need to play in Turkish tuning (which will produce Nihavend in D using the standard fingerings for the makam), or to play in Arab tuning, but with the tonic moved up one tone to the open fourth string dugah (that is, use a scale similar to makam Buselik). Playing the piece on dugah in Arab tuning is technically possible, and may be what Shaheen actually did, although I am not sure of that.

Enjoy!

al-Halabi - 9-10-2005 at 10:10 AM

Amarock,

There is another way for you to play the piece in D along with the recording while using Arab tuning and without going through complicated transposing. Pretend that the piece is in Arab notation, and play the notes exactly as they appear, except one string lower (lower in pitch). So the first note of the piece, D, would be played on the open fourth string A instead of the open third string D; the next note d would be played on the second position on the second string instead of the second position on the first string, producing an 'a'; and so on. The key signature would change a bit: the B's would remain flat but not the E's. This method should work easily for most notes, although some of the high notes (those way up the fingerboard on the first string) may take a bit more effort transposing.

Good luck!

OudManiax - 9-12-2005 at 01:33 PM

please, my friend. send it to me here is my mail:

burnaklioglu@gmail.com

Tanricorur's nihavent sazsemai

dahun - 9-12-2005 at 05:44 PM

Thank you Dincer for the great information in your posts, sharing your mastery of the oud, its creation and music.
It is a privilege to have the counsel of a master like you.

Now onto a more mundane task and request. I have been an admirer of Cinucen Tanrikorur, both for his oud technique and his composition, for a while now and of his student, Necati Celik. They both examplify the finest of the Turkish style; this is my prejudice, I admit.

I would love to have a copy of the Nihavent Sazsemai.

Thank you for your sharing with all of us in this forum.

Béla