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oudplayer - 10-29-2006 at 07:31 PM

hey all
I wanna take care of some things on a oud that i have . the maker is ahmed abdul halim theres no labal inside but the guy that i bought ti from he only sells those ouds. so who knows. the sound is not bad just not the greatest you pay for what u get.
i wanna take care of a few things.
1 i wannafill in the gapes with something in the sides .
(what do i fill it in with )
2 i wanna change the pegs . which i am gann order from jameel asap.
3 shine the bowl {how do i shine the bowl }
thx for yr help plez help me anyone
thx

oudplayer - 10-29-2006 at 07:33 PM

heres the crack on the side

oudplayer - 10-29-2006 at 07:34 PM

here is the bowl looks shiny but its bare

oudplayer - 10-29-2006 at 07:37 PM

here the peg box after tuning it for a while it always gets undone

oudplayer - 10-30-2006 at 04:06 PM

hey doc or whom ever

Is it ok to use pledge for the bowl to shine it up
plus shoudl i use wood glue to clamp the sides back down .
thx sammy

Dr. Oud - 10-31-2006 at 03:08 PM

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Originally posted by oudplayer
hey doc or whom ever

Is it ok to use pledge for the bowl to shine it up
plus shoudl i use wood glue to clamp the sides back down .
thx sammy
Pledge is fine for the back, neck and fingerboard. Be careful not to get any on the face, though.

The face is probable glued with hide glue, you can test it with a little warm water. If the glue softenes, it's hide. You cen reglue it with hide glue, but don't use the liquid glue sold at the harware store as it is not strong enough. Hide glue requires some knowledge to prepare, but it is the best for instrument work. Here's a simple balance I use to measure the mixture

Otherwise, the old glue needs to be cleaned away for any other glue to adhere to the wood. You can use yellow carpenter's glue, known as Titebond, Elmer's, etc. It's generic name is aliphatic resin. You can hold the face down with masking tape or strips of rubber cut from bicycle inner tubes. Use just enough tension to hold the face down.

oudplayer - 10-31-2006 at 03:22 PM

hey doc
thx for the info i already got the caperter glue and it looks great to me
thx alot for the info
thx sammy

SamirCanada - 10-31-2006 at 09:51 PM

Titebond Liquid Hide Glue. Doc have you ever used this stuff? is it worth it?

http://www.rockler.com/ecom7/product_details.cfm?offerings_id=5336&...

Also Sammy, Look forward to Jameel's peg instaling tutorial on his web site http://www.khalafoud.com it is verry usefull.

Dr. Oud - 11-1-2006 at 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by SamirCanada
Titebond Liquid Hide Glue. Doc have you ever used this stuff? is it worth it? ....
I have tried similar liquid hide glue products and found they are only useful for gluing paper labels. The locked mitre joint in the review has rather large multiple glue surfaces that contribute a lot to the strength of the glue joint. Most of the glue joints in an oud have small surface area that requires the greatest possible adhesion while allowing for disassembly for repair. Only cooked hide glue meets these requirements. glue test liquid hide glue review hide glue glue chart

oudplayer - 11-16-2006 at 08:32 AM

hey all
i just finished fitting the peggs look amazing now cant wait for the stings on it and se ehow it really sounds.
B4 i put the string on i need to drill the holes in the pegs.
and can someone show me exacly where the holes go bc i never know and i kind of destroyed the sound like i did them all over the place so they wotn touch but for some odd reason they all toched and buzzed .
so can someone plezz show me a nice clean pic of where exacly to drill
thjx sammy
new and inproved pegs