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is this possable

oudplayer - 11-13-2006 at 04:47 PM

hey guys
for the luithers in the house. or whom ever

Is it possable to turn a regular oud to a bashir oud with-out taking the origanal bridge out .
like can u keep the same bridge and just add a new brdge to the back of the oud
thx sammy

bashir stayle!

muthada - 11-15-2006 at 02:02 AM

hi sammy

its possible but not recommended.

if you will do this the strings will be more higher from the fingerboard.

it will be dificult to play.:shrug:

SamirCanada - 11-15-2006 at 07:46 AM

I had done this to one of my ouds a couple years ago.

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=2725&pa...

Dr. Oud - 11-15-2006 at 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by oudplayer
hey guys
for the luithers in the house. or whom ever

Is it possable to turn a regular oud to a bashir oud with-out taking the origanal bridge out .
like can u keep the same bridge and just add a new brdge to the back of the oud
thx sammy
You might damage the face if the soundboard structure is as light as it should be. A fixed bridge twists the face, and a tail-piece/floating bridge pushes directly doen on the face. This imparts a very different force on the face and the Bashir oud consequently is braced and structured differently than a a fixed bridge. I would not reccomend this adaptation without rebuilding the soundboard to accomodate the different pressure.

jshead - 11-16-2006 at 03:59 AM

Why would you want to do that?

SamirCanada - 11-16-2006 at 07:47 AM

Ultimately I think you couldnt be more right jshead.

oudplayer - 11-16-2006 at 08:27 AM

hey guys
thx for the infi ui want planing on it but i was just seeing if it was possable . bc i want a bashir oud so if ti was easy and all then iw ould do it
thx all sammy

Dr. Oud - 11-16-2006 at 09:27 AM

There's another aspect to this conversion. In order to get enough pressure on the face with a floating bridge, Bashir ouds are built with a bent face, so that the tail piece is lower than the plane of the face above the bridge. The fixed bridge face is straight to the tail end. A conversion would not put enough pressure on the face to produce the sound level consistent with the Bashir design. The only way to do this would be to raise the bridge up, then the fingerboard must also be buit up or the neck reset to compensate. While it may seem an interesting idea, conversion is not a practical endeavor.