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Iraqi Maqams

samzayed - 2-23-2007 at 08:20 PM

I am looking for some resource on Iraqi maqams, in particular Dashte and Lami. Can anyone at least tell me the notes of these maqams?

If there is a web page that explains these maqams, I would like that very much.

Many thanks,

Sam

Microber - 2-24-2007 at 12:27 AM

I have this one.
In a previous thread :
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=3796#pid250...

The notes of Maqam Lami are at the bottom of the sheet music.
Hope it helps.

Robert

Microber - 2-24-2007 at 01:01 AM

The link provided by Wazza is no longer valid.
Here is a new one for a recording by Jameel Bashir.
http://www.box.net/public/7l0mpon92t

Microber - 2-24-2007 at 01:03 AM

Here is another Samai Lame played by Yair Dalal
http://www.box.net/public/bn5byxdhv0

samzayed - 2-24-2007 at 02:13 PM

many thanks!

hamed - 2-24-2007 at 06:51 PM

I'm pretty sure that dacht is bayati on G if i'm not mistaken.

Hamed

samzayed - 2-24-2007 at 06:59 PM

Bayati on G is Bayati Nawa, but Dashte still could be the same notes as bayati on G, but with a different melodic treatment. I gave a Dashte piece a listen earlier - it sounds very much like Lami in the way it resolves.

There has to be a page on the internet that talks about Iraqi maqams. It amazes me that I haven't found one yet

oistrach13 - 3-6-2007 at 01:57 AM

I wouldn't be so surprized that there are almost no resources on the internet about Iraqi maqams.

Dashti is one of the subsidiary maqams of Husainy.

Therefore, the scale would be similar to Husainy not bayati, small note though, Husaini on D would be Bayati on D and Rast on G, however, Dashti usually touches bayati on G as well, making the scale bayati on D, and bayati on G, but this is just in passing, and not the main scale.

Again, besides Lami, Mukhalif, and Gulguli, Iraqi modes almost always have scales that are well known and well used in the arab world, so they aren't as exotic as people think, the scale is the same, but the treatment is different. (Hussaini, Orfa and Dasht are all the same scale, different treatment).