nadir - 4-18-2004 at 03:19 PM
I was just putting this thread up about rosettes to know which rosettes people prefer and why? (Horn, plastic, wood...) Maybe there are also some nice
rosettes that people can post up on here as well!
I got this idea because there were these really beautiful ouds that were of the finest everything... except it had plastic rosettes! I felt as if it
ruined the whole oud so I didn't even consider getting it!
nadir - 4-18-2004 at 03:27 PM
O no, I forgot to ask my main question! Are there any advantages or disadvantages to have certain rosettes such as ivory, mother of pearl or plastic?
All I know is that materials like ivory and mother of pearl last a long time! But is that all?
david - 4-18-2004 at 06:50 PM
Hey Nadir, I like them all! As long as its a cool design I'm all for it. As far the different types I don't have a clue
All I know is that some oud players feel that it dampens the sound of the oud. My oud teacher wants to remove his.
Zulkarnain - 4-18-2004 at 06:52 PM
david - 4-18-2004 at 07:10 PM
What your just going to roll your eyes? Nothing to say? I wonder what you would do if Mike never put these
smilies up? In fact thats one of the things that i wanted different on my oud when I ordered it. I think its a great idea to post pictures of
different rosettes, look at the beauty of the rosettes on a Nahat oud!
Zulkarnain - 4-18-2004 at 07:23 PM
Roses
Dr. Oud - 4-19-2004 at 12:24 PM
The Turkish makers used horn roses but I never have seen one in an Arabic oud.
Nor have I seen a mother of pearl rose - inlay, yes, but not a rose. MOP is rather fragil on its own and cutting thin sections of a rose design in
MOP is risky business.
Ivory roses made by the Nahat family (and others)were laminated on a base of hardwood to stabalize the ivory.
I once had a Dicran Najarian that had solid bone roses. 'Must have been an elephant or whale shoulder bone to get the big rose in one piece.
Modern makers are using composites and laminated for the rose.
The rose provides a structural purpose to support the inside edges of the soft thin face. Without a rose or an underlying support plate the face could
be easily split and/or damaged. The area above the bottom edge of the large rose serves no pupose in producing tone, but is a structural plate for
establishing the string length. The rose does not inhibit or contribute to any sound or tonal characteristic.
There's a gallery of roses on Pablo's Oud Site:
http://oudpage.tripod.com/rosettes.htm
Jameel - 4-19-2004 at 02:25 PM
Richard,
Thanks for the info. I have been thinking about making a bone rose for the next oud. How would you make the blank for the rose with bone? I suppose I
would get as wide and long slices as possible and glue them edge to edge and then to a substrate. How are the Nahat roses you have made, and would
you mind posting pics of them??
Ronny Andersson - 4-20-2004 at 10:53 AM
Dr.Oud skrev:
>The Turkish makers used horn roses but >I never have seen one in an Arabic oud.
Yaroub does it but he's not a traditional maker or very conservative.
spyros mesogeia - 4-20-2004 at 02:22 PM
Dear friends,
Personally prefer the horn rosettes,or the combination of wood and horn,or wood Ivory.....
Anyhow,Dimitris makes Horn rosettes on all of his instruments....and they are all handmade...
On my Syrian type is made of horn.....
Best regards
Spyros
rosettes
Haluk - 4-21-2004 at 02:28 AM
Hello,
We use also horn rosettes on our quality ouds.Learner and oud-3 professionals have wooden rosettes.
Regards.
Haluk Eraydin
http://www.eraydinsazevi.com.tr