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what is the nashaat kar?

spyros mesogeia - 6-7-2008 at 06:10 PM

Hello guys,
Can you please tell me more details about the Nashaat Kar?
What is it?
how does it sound?any pictures?String length?Tunning?Makers?Are there more than one types?Prices eventually by private mesage?
Thank you very much.
Regards
Spyros

Melbourne - 6-7-2008 at 07:11 PM

Hi Spyros...

This instrument that you mention seems to be some sort of long necked, strange body sized oud with mechanical tuners...Theres a couple of models available on the sukar website (see link), but as you can see the two versions, look quite different. I've seen a similar creature on Nazih Ghadban's website in some of the photos, perhaps Nazih would be a good person to ask. He's quite helpful and his English is good.

http://www.oudsukar.com/products_nashaatKar_ar.php#

Cheers

spyros mesogeia - 6-8-2008 at 03:26 AM

Thank you my friend
I will ask him,
Eventually If he wishes will respond me here on this top.
I thought that it was with metallic strings.....
Thanks alot
:)

Faladel - 6-8-2008 at 04:04 AM

Dear Spyros:

Nashaat kar is an instrument that we Play in Aleppo long ago it is like the lavta, but with matalic strings , the name of this instrument comes from his Turkish inventor Nashaat, his dimensions are the same that lavta.
Take care
Saludos ;)

Jassim - 6-8-2008 at 04:20 AM

its copy from lavta

spyros mesogeia - 6-8-2008 at 07:31 AM

Ok guys,thank you,but please gve me some more details?
Isi it freted?does it has frets?
What is the tunning?
What typ[e of strings is uses?double?single?What is the string length?
Any recordings?
Any luthiers?
Thanks in advance.I Love this forum Mike.
Regards to all
Spyros

Faladel - 6-9-2008 at 12:21 AM

Dear Spyros:

Nashaat Kar has no frets , its similar of oud, the strings is double and its like Cumbus strings or similar , we tuning it F,A,D,G,C,F....and the length is 60 Cm ,I say that thing about memory, I am not sure completely, the neck is longer than in the oud .
regards maestro

adamgood - 6-9-2008 at 02:25 AM

amazing, this was sounding really familiar so I ran to my Kalan "Masters of Turkish Music - Ud" CD and looked at the English translation for the ud master Udi Nes,et Bey. You can hear the instrument on the first CD, it sounds like a very high-pitched cumbus. Here it is word for word:

Udi Nes,et Bey (? -1930)
"The birth date of this artist, known as Arap Neş’et Bey, has unfortunately not been determined. His instrument, which greatly resembled the ud, was his own invention. Composed of a cümbüş neck attached to a lavta body, and dubbed the ‘Neşetkâr’, it was well-received and in demand in Anatolia. Although this is the instrument that inspired poet Yahyâ Kemâl Beyatlı to write the following lines, it is not known if the artist was Neş’et Bey*:
I went to a dicey neighborhood,
And was tormented by the man’s şerare
It would have been preferable to fall down
From the tall Tower of Beyazıt
Besides the two songs he composed, Neş’et Bey recorded more than ten taksims on 78s. The taksims in Rast and Yegâh, played here on the instrument called the ‘Neşetkâr’ or ‘Şerâre (pictured in the booklet), are from the collection of Fikret Bertuğ.
*A musician who Yahyâ Kemâl came across on the street told him he’d invented a musical instrument which he called ‘Şerâre’, and insisted on playing it for him. Finding no escape, the poet, after going to the man’s home and sitting through an extremely bad performance, at last managed to extricate himself from the house and wrote the quatrain."

spyros mesogeia - 6-9-2008 at 03:25 AM

Thanks my friends.Any fotos ?
Any big fotos to see how does it looks like?
And any makers-luthiers?Soundclips?
Can this instrument to be tunned in other tunnings?
Thanks in advance oud-brothers.You help means alot for me.
Regards and thanks again
Spyros

neşetkar

sinanerdemsel - 3-9-2009 at 05:47 PM

I have an original neşetkar ..I will add more photos asap..;)

Here is some new photos of my historical treasure Neşetkar...

I will give more information about it later..

http://picasaweb.google.com.tr/sinanerdemsel/Nesetkar?authkey=Gv1sR...

spyros mesogeia - 3-9-2009 at 11:28 PM

Thank you my friend.
I am very interested for this instrument.
Can you send me some more details please?
Active sting length?
Maker?
Tunning?
Eventual prices ?[in private]
Thank you my friend.
Best Regards':wavey:

BaniYazid - 10-22-2010 at 06:46 AM

Hi Spyros

Old thread but if you still want this instrument you can contact Tarek AL MALKI in France, here is the nashaat kar
http://www.leboncoin.fr/instruments_de_musique/146937496.htm?ca=18_...

Zulu - 10-23-2010 at 01:44 PM

I checked out the link and noticed the price was very low, only 150 euros; is this a normal price for a quality nashaat kar or is the market similar to ouds where you find low priced wall hangers or more expensive quality instruments by luthiers?

spyros mesogeia - 10-25-2010 at 02:01 PM

Thank you my friend for the information.I really appreciate it
Warmest Regards
Spyros

BaniYazid - 10-26-2010 at 03:07 AM

Hi Zulu,

I was also surprised by the price. The buyer says it's a Ibrahim Sukar. I asked for a photo to see the label, I'm still waiting...

BaniYazid - 10-26-2010 at 06:51 AM

Update

he says the label is no longer on the instrument, but I can come and try it. I'm too far, can't go and try.
Can't say more about the instrument.
I don't find this model at http://www.oudsukar.com/New/en/products_en.php?cat=nash , maybe an older one, maybe fake :shrug:

Regards

sinanerdemsel - 5-14-2013 at 05:08 PM

My Nashaat Kar is at least 100 years old and made by Onnik Karebjan..
It is my treasure and it is for sale..
$15000 :rolleyes:

adamgood - 5-15-2013 at 06:13 AM

Quote: Originally posted by sinanerdemsel  
My Nashaat Kar is at least 100 years old and made by Onnik Karebjan..
It is my treasure and it is for sale..
$15000 :rolleyes:


Wow really from Karibyan??????? Could you please please post a photo?? Everyone would love to see it!!

Adam

oudistcamp - 5-15-2013 at 06:48 AM

We had the pleasure to meet Sinan and his gracious family last year.
The nashaat kar is truly beauty to behold......

sinanerdemsel - 5-16-2013 at 10:21 AM

Thank you Gary...Beautiful photos..
:)