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What Maqam is "Nasam 3laina Hawa" for Fairouz played?

nancy - 7-9-2008 at 01:54 AM

Hey Everyone,

I'm praticing notes for maqam from scratch but on the way i tried by ear playing the above mentioned song, it went will at the begining but then i got mixed, please advice on which maqam is this song played?

Thank you...

SamirCanada - 7-9-2008 at 04:46 AM

check out this link.
the Maqam is Ajam I think.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=augT-0japCE

nancy - 7-9-2008 at 05:19 AM

thanx,

i am actually at work right now, and you tube site is blocked from our administration so is there any other alternative?

katakofka - 7-9-2008 at 05:20 AM

Hi Nancy
the scale is: LA-Sib-DO-RE-MI-FA-SOL-LA (sib, do, re..ect on the next octave). This is called "KORD LA" or "Nahawand RE" since 2 makams can be played using this scale, but the main mood is KORD.

katakofka - 7-9-2008 at 06:15 AM

Samir's youtube video is playing "Nassam" on the scale I mentioned above. I just saw it. So Nancy, one is showing you the hand position and one the scale where to play it. You have no excuse now to post it played ;)
Good practice

dubai244 - 7-9-2008 at 07:12 AM

Hi Samir,

I am really sorry, But it is not Ajam, It is Kurd magam on SOL strings.

Thanks

SamirCanada - 7-9-2008 at 07:30 AM

wow what a brain fart!
I am stupid its definately Kurd. no doubt about it.
thanks for the corection!!

katakofka - 7-9-2008 at 08:10 AM

Dubai..why on Sol:( Samir is playing it Kurd LA in his video. You know it can be played on FA, RE, SOL, Do..etc. But to be coherent and helpfull let's keep it on LA:)

oudmaker - 7-26-2008 at 01:03 PM

Gentlemen
Although mentioned song is Arabic and I heard from Fariuz`s LP but it is in Muhayyer kurdi. A makam used in Turkish music also.
Regards

katakofka - 7-26-2008 at 05:26 PM

Hi Dincer, hope your doing fine, last time we meet I drove from DC to PA bringing with me my Nahaat Oud:)
Muhayyer kurdi or Kurd LA I guess we're talking about the same notes but giving the makam different name. A question: what do you call the same makam when played on Do,Re, or Sol instead of LA? Do you still call it Muhayyar Kurdi ?
Regards
Souheil

oudmaker - 7-26-2008 at 09:46 PM

Hi Souheil
Yes. As far as Turkish musical system that I know, we call makams not according the keys or notes they played on but according intervals and "Seyir"s they have. Contrary even some predominant Turkish musicians and music theoriests say, to transpot a makam to a different key does not change it. Although every makam has a generally excepted key to play on, theoreticaly with some few exeptions all makams can be play on same key or note. Meaning you can play Rast and Ussak on LA ( Dugah). Again some people call Rast on dugah is Nisaburek. That is not correct. A proficient and capable oud player can make Rast and Nisaburek and Ussak and Evic taksims on same note like "A" or "Dugah". Cinucen used to do it. Exceptions are Makams like Segah and Bestenigar which are very difficult to do so on oud since all your fingering will change to accomodate to produce intervals for these makams accepting "A" as "B with a Comma flat". Again it is possible but very difficult. I hope I did not confused you my friend. If you did, don't take seriously what this old man is saying !!
Regards

nancy - 7-26-2008 at 11:56 PM

Thats interesting, i guess i have asked an important question to have all those guidelines, well i'm still trying my best but unfortunately again i cant find the time to pratice this wonderful instrument, but i am doing my best from time to time.

Cheers all.

katakofka - 7-27-2008 at 07:44 AM

Not at all Dincer, no confusion. It's just an attempt to understanding the differences in makams. As far as seen on youtube many Muhayyer Kurdi are played on B key (A positon in arabic tuning) which gives the impression that Muhhayyer Kurdi is only played on B. It seems it's the same between turkish and arabic but we call it Kurd, in turkish you call it Muhayyer Kurdi.
Many thanks for the info
Best

SamirCanada - 7-27-2008 at 07:01 PM

Dincer Bey,
it is nice to hear from you.
hopefully we can hear from you more often.
your guidance and input has been missed around here.