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Ghassan Alyousif and Dina play on one oud

samiroud123 - 3-29-2009 at 12:59 PM

Hi All,

First time poster.

Took up Oud ( and music) late in life...... but very much a beginner, just can`t put it down!

Anyway, I absolutely love this piece of music on youtube.. sorry i dont know how to past link here but it has the subject title... its a piece by Ahmed Fathi ( Yemeni), from 5.00 to 8.35, played by Ghassan and Dina... its just wonderful.

Can some one tell me :

1. what tuning is used in this piece?

2. what maqam?

3. can someone please do a sheet music for this or a simple version of it, if only before the percussion join in.

what do others think of this piece.

samiroud123

samiroud123 - 3-29-2009 at 10:59 PM

here is the link...... from 5.oo mins onwards

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmpe5Gi7BBc

Reda Aouad - 3-30-2009 at 12:41 AM

Hi Samir.

This piece is inspired by Ahmed Fathi and not composed by him but by Ghassan
The tuning used is the Iraqi FA DO RE sol do fa. Dina is out of tune throughout the complete video.
I think it's in Nahawand DO.

hama - 3-30-2009 at 02:41 AM

Hi Samir Oud
I agree with you it is very nice piece, I asked Ghassan al yousif about your questions
and here is his reply

good afternoon MO7AMMAD well i am happy to know that you liked this piece named by SARAB it is inspiered from the yemeni culture,well i usually tune my oud FA DO RE SOL DO FA,and the maqam is nahawand DO,WHICH SIMILAR TO THE DO MINOR.thank u.GHASSAN ALYOUSIF


he confirms what Reda said above, ( well done Reda) By the way I emailed him before seeing your post , I asked him about sheet music as well awaiting reply
regards hama

Reda Aouad - 3-30-2009 at 03:56 AM

Hama could you give us his email please? At least by U2U :rolleyes:
Indeed it's a really nice piece.. We will be waiting for the music sheet :cool:

Longa Riyad

ikariotika - 3-30-2009 at 01:30 PM

I believe it the Longa Riyad (Farah Faza) by Riyad al-Sunbati, you can find the sheet music for this on Issa Boulos' site.

John Erlich - 3-30-2009 at 05:56 PM

You are talking about the melody that starts at about 7:02, right? Nice ballad-like melody. Would love to see the music, too. (Ikariotika is correct: The first piece is "Longa Riad".)

I looked for the YouTube video of the two Turkish ud players really "hot-doggin'" on one ud...couldn't find it though.

Best,
John

Reda Aouad - 3-31-2009 at 01:44 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hk3Mttq_3A

They synchronize very well. But I don't like the as-fast-and-as-strong-as-possible style at all.

fhydan - 3-31-2009 at 02:33 AM

I agree with Reda.

Its more sport than music.

samiroud123 - 3-31-2009 at 08:56 AM

Hi Reda & Hama,

Thank you for the correction.

Fingering for Nahawand on DO ( DO minor). Pls correct me if I am wrong. I tune G A D g c. so is the fingering as follows ( in the first position) :

3rd finger on A = Do ,
open D , 1st finger on D = E flat, 3rd finger on D = F natural,
open g, 1st finger on g =a flat , 4th finger on g = b natural ,
open c.

Again correct me pls, in F to f tuning, only difference is you play open C and open D strings ?

thanking you for your guidance

Samir

Reda Aouad - 3-31-2009 at 09:13 AM

The fingering is correct. On the way up it's B natural and on the way down it B flat (3rd finger on g string). It is not necessary that every B should be natural if followed by C and flat if preceded by C. The way up/down means when the melody's direction is upward/downward.

It is called the half first position.. I don't know if it's the correct name in English.. In French 'la demi premiere position' and in arabic نصف الوضع الأول.

But I didn't understand your question about the F to f tuning..