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Ararat66 - 6-28-2009 at 02:59 PM

Just seen this Richard Hagopian clip on Youtube - fantastic playing especially the right hand, real fire.

Leon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b53p0e5KksQ&feature=PlayList&...

Ararat66 - 6-28-2009 at 03:10 PM

... and this - Peter Dorian, fantastic 'attack'

Leon

MatthewW - 6-29-2009 at 09:47 AM

Hi Leon- yes sir, Richard can really play, and sing! do you know what tuning he likes to use? cheers, MW

paulO - 6-29-2009 at 03:55 PM

Hi matthewW,

Richard uses EABEAD.

Regards...Paul

Owain-Hawk - 6-29-2009 at 10:38 PM

Wow... I love the way his fingers wait for his other hand to play the bass drone before he begins playing again... but all in a split second! He has amazing brain control, not to mention musical talent!! :applause: Thanks for the vid Leon, do you know any more like this?

maran - 6-29-2009 at 10:54 PM

hey leon, you said you liked ara dinkjian. have you seen this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPWLhi4gpwc

see what ara plays at 3:14

this has armen donelian on piano, and i think marc johnson (who was once the great pianist bill evans' bassist)

another one with the same group:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnQq-O3kUSI

Marina - 6-30-2009 at 03:54 AM

:applause:

Ararat66 - 6-30-2009 at 04:53 AM

Hi Maran and the others

That's a fantastic roll at 3.14, Ara throws these glorious lines in when you least expect it - a real master.

Hi Udi Owain, how are you, great to see you the other day, lovely to see your playing again - a real pleasure. I watched this again an I see what you mean, he kind of draws space into a very very fast tempo, I think it is so dynamic.

Cheers fom a very hot South coast:cool::cool:

Leon

Owain-Hawk - 6-30-2009 at 09:24 AM

Hi Udi Leon! :D I am good thanks, yourself? It was great seeing you, your playing (and your Oud :cool: ) again too! You absolutely astonish me with your ability to make so many sounds on the Oud. Somtimes I heard Turkish, Armenian, Greek, and Arabic all in one phrase. I've been meaning to U2U you and flood you with compliments, but I haven't had time ;)

Something I noticed with Richard's playing, is that he kind of lifts his fingers really fast and high off the notes after he has hit them... is there a reason or is it just technique?

Cheers from... er, a very hot North coast... but overcast! :shrug:


Ararat66 - 7-3-2009 at 02:26 PM

Hi Owain

Thanks for the compliments - all taken with full gratitude, its hard to be objective sometimes, you are very kind:)

Check this interview with Richard H on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuCXl_9XTZY&feature=related

see from 3.40 onwards, listen to that tone, really strong but then watch how he curls his fingers round to use his nail. I think that percussive lift to the finger relates to this ...

but what a tone !!!

Leon:airguitar::airguitar:

Jonathan - 7-3-2009 at 02:31 PM

From older players that I have talked to, Hrant took a fairly similar approach--with the finger essentially at a right angle to the fingerboard. I wonder if Hagopian's playing reflects Hrant's influence, in light of the fact that Hrant Emre Kenkulian was his master.


Ararat66 - 7-3-2009 at 02:32 PM

... and check this out too

for tone junkies only !!!!

Leon

msimon - 7-4-2009 at 04:16 PM

Awesome clip, Ararat66! He's amazing!
Thanks,
MS


Ararat66 - 7-4-2009 at 04:56 PM

Hi Jonathan

Is that how Udi Hrant gets that astounding soulful and sustained 'howl' from his oud - what a teacher to have though.

I was just watching John Bilezikian doing similar and amazing feats of soulful and sustained tone and his fingering looks similar just here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na6vaN6AMVk&feature=related

just listen that sound and the passion in those held glissandos/carpmas i the first 40 seconds

Late night surfing with oud in hand ... time for bed ... everyone else is asleep:cool::cool:

Leon

Jonathan - 7-4-2009 at 05:38 PM

I could go on forever about how beautiful Bilezikjian's playing is. It is absolutely brilliant. Soulful. 100% spot-on intonation. And, perhaps just as important, he breathes new life into every composition he plays.
Here's one of my favorites, Husseini Saz Semai:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUbDxEbIzWE

In Bilezikjian's hands, it is not some museum piece--it is a living, breathing composition that continues to develop. It is not some slavish copy of the original composition. I can't help but smile every time I hear it. I have been blessed to hear him perform the song live a number of times, and the man continues to develop the composition each time he plays it. Brilliant.

Ararat66 - 7-5-2009 at 01:56 AM

Hi Jonathan

I agree, I love this version, what's interesting is that I can hear the folk roots emerging from the underlying structure of the piece. His tone is astonishing and the picking hand so relaxed.

Here's a different version I've just seen, this time a Huseyni Taksim, but beautifully played by Cinucen Tanrikorur

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2_Y49QKmpQ

Beautiful phrasing and 'ornamentation' (I don't like that phrase - sounds like something you bolt on to a dodgy style!! - but you know what I mean).

Leon:)

Benjamin - 7-5-2009 at 02:59 AM

Quote: Originally posted by Jonathan  
I could go on forever about how beautiful Bilezikjian's playing is. It is absolutely brilliant. Soulful. 100% spot-on intonation. And, perhaps just as important, he breathes new life into every composition he plays.
Here's one of my favorites, Husseini Saz Semai:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUbDxEbIzWE

In Bilezikjian's hands, it is not some museum piece--it is a living, breathing composition that continues to develop. It is not some slavish copy of the original composition. I can't help but smile every time I hear it. I have been blessed to hear him perform the song live a number of times, and the man continues to develop the composition each time he plays it. Brilliant.


Great player!

Benjamin - 7-5-2009 at 03:09 AM

Guys do you know on which strings play Ara Dinkjian, Richard Hagopian or Bilezikjian?