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The influence of the arabic civilisation in Europe

katakofka - 10-24-2009 at 08:27 PM

Interesting documentary by the BBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0IaCK-7z5o
watch out..1h28min

Aymara - 10-25-2009 at 09:19 AM

Very interesting ... thanks for the tip.

But I prefer the smaller sized videos due to my limited bandwidth.

Lamma Anakhu - 10-26-2009 at 08:46 AM

Thanks for sharing katakofka. I had a chance to see this a few months back.  It must have been filmed in 2004, as that is when George Saliba, Professor of Arabic and Islamic Studies at Columbia University, was giving his lectures at the Institut du Monde Arabe. I hope they do an update, as Saliba has since published his marvelous "Islamic Science and the Making of the European Renaissance" (The MIT Press, 2007).

His central thesis in the book is that the idea of how an Islamic translation movement got underway, and when things took place, needed a major reassessment, right down to the view that the pre-Islamic Arabs were unscientific boobs, living "isolated in a desert environment." The latter he disproves in "Science before Islam", which is a part of "The Different Aspects of Islamic Culture, Volume 4: Part I: Science and Technology in Islam" (UNESCO, 2001). http://www.unesco.org/culture/aic/

Saliba's book on Islamic Sciences is a great hardcover buy for $35 US, as it shows how an awful lot of the what is written about the translation movement is based on gigantic stacks of not so well thought out supposition, both medieval and modern, western and eastern.

katakofka - 10-26-2009 at 01:35 PM

Geoges Saliba's lecture on that subject
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKINQFNs4jA
this is part 1 out of 7

mrkmni - 11-3-2009 at 06:21 PM

Thanks a lot...
Very interesting! I will download it.

mary - 11-14-2009 at 10:58 AM

wow, what a find- thanks a lot for posting this...