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[*] posted on 4-13-2005 at 09:47 AM
Request for a Comprehensive Maqam List


Is there anyone that has a comprehensive list of the maqamat? I already am aware of the ones on http://www.maqamworld.com, but there are apparently dozens of maqamat out there. Is there a musical historian who has written them down, by any chance? And if so, does any one know the notes to these maqamat?

For example... the maqam Lami is not available on maqamworld.com...

Maybe there's a pdf file somewhere in a library of PhD theses that has this list. Anyone know of something like this?

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[*] posted on 4-13-2005 at 03:01 PM


hi TP21. there was a post a while ago about the basics of modulation. it is a whole pdf file with so many maqamat and how to modulate between them. the pdf file is an article written by Scott Marcus: "Modulation in Arab Music: documenting oral concepts, performance rules and strategies", Ethnomusicology 36(2), 171 (1992). this is what is written on it!
it also has a website http://www.oud.ec;ipse.co.uk/arabmod.html.
hope this helps you and helps somebodys memory here of when and who posted it




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[*] posted on 4-13-2005 at 03:13 PM


Some 110 or so Arab maqamat are listed in Scott Marcus' dissertation.

About the same number (but of Turkish makams) are featured in Ozkan's huge work on makams. Many of them are not listed in Marcus' dissertation.

In one of the issues of Muzik Mecmuazi [sp.?], a Turkish music magazine (now defunct), they listed 530 makams. In subsequent issues, they got letters in from various musicologists that claimed that many of them, though mentioned somewhere in print, actually never had any repertoire written for them. Other letters pointed to makams which had repertoire listed but had never been "theorized."

With this in mind, I don't know if one could actually compile a thorough list of makams.

Do you include what Turkish folklore pedagogues call "ayak" modes - which are related to but aren't makams? All of Alevi music is theorized using concepts of ayak (unless it's a classical musician doing the analysis, in which case makams suddenly surface again).

Good luck!
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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 09:06 AM


Hey TP,


I just got a copy of the Scott Marcus dissertation. I will scan the maqam list and send it to you if you want. Give me a day or so pleeeeeeeeese.

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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 09:09 AM


Hey Omar,

Take your time man. Thanks so much.

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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 09:22 AM


I think someone should post the list on the forums for everyone! The list of 110, maybe not the 530 in the magazine.

I have a Xerox copy of Appendix 9 from Dr. Marcus' book, which has 64 maqamat. There seem to be a few errors in the names; for example, he refers to Nayrûz/Nawrûz as "Nîrz", and what he calls Dalanshîn (Râst with an added Shahnâz/high D-flat) I've seen called Dilnashîn elsewhere.




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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 09:24 AM


Which magazine has 530 in it, Danny? Even that would be awesome to have.

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[*] posted on 4-14-2005 at 09:33 AM


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Which magazine has 530 in it, Danny? Even that would be awesome to have.


Eliot said he knew of a now-defunct Turkish magazine that listed 530 maqams. (I wonder if it listed both Arabic and Turkish or just one or the other).

And yesterday, I hand-copied a much shorter list from a book(let) titled Maqâmât ul-Mûsîqâ l-3Arabîyah, author M. S. Farjani, with 32 maqams, including some like Isfahân I don't recall ever coming across before (I only knew it as an Iranian dastgah). But the book only contains maqams in the Rast, Bayati, Nahawand and Ajam Ashiran classes - no Sikah, Saba or Kurd.

(Isfahan is shown as essentially Yakah or Sazkar in Dukah ascending, Bayati descending.)




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[*] posted on 4-16-2005 at 06:27 PM


The journal, I am sure, was Musiki Mecmuasi. I don't have the time to find the reference right at the moment for the "comprehensive" makam list.

There wasn't much explanation of where the makam names came from. After reading the list, I couldn't think of any Arab ones I've heard of that weren't on there, though. Who knows - the author may have slipped "a few of his own" on there, S. Ezgi style...
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[*] posted on 4-18-2005 at 11:12 AM


There is also the list (Turkish) that can be found at:
http://www.neyzen.com/liste_harici.htm with examples.

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[*] posted on 4-18-2005 at 11:19 AM


that's 99 makams... probably "enough for starters"... ;)

Edit: just looked, it's missing some of my "favorites":
Rahat l'Ervah
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