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[*] posted on 5-14-2004 at 03:31 PM


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I have a similar collection of "Instrumental Oud" playing only Oum Khulthum's songs-Both front cover have Mr. Sunbathi picture and the playing style is pretty much the same style as those 2 clips that Jameel post. Sadly theres also no description about who is playing the Oud for this recording! I dont think its Mr. Sunbathi playing as the mix of the recording sound very new and modern-I will try to post the front cover images and also try to ask around when Im in Cairo later this month-regards


Zul,

What's the name of the CD?




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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 05:23 AM


Hey Zul,

Thanks. This is definitely the same guy. This album has some different songs, but the style and playing is identical. I found the website, and it has some clips. I'll be ordering this one.....

http://www.mirage-records.com/album.php?albumID=360

Ok, I just found THE exact album!! I've been looking for this one for two years!

http://www.mirage-records.com/album.php?albumID=361

And another one:

http://www.mirage-records.com/album.php?albumID=362




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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 05:39 AM


Hey guys,

Those are pictures of Sunbati on the covers of the albums, but the player could be his brother. I don't remember his name. I have a tape of remakes of Sunbati's compositions, and his brother plays oud accompanied by ney, kanun, violin, and percussions. Nice find Jameel. I'll be ordering them too!

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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 06:01 AM


Yup thats the one Jameel! Mike, can you tell us more bout sunbathi's brother? His playing is decadence!




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**Im thinking of hunting those kind of records while in Cairo-any chance?
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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 08:03 AM


Hi Jameel

Did you manage to find any way of ordering these recordings on the Mirage website, or did you just email them? I guess they are on CD rather than cassette, but I could not really tell from the site either. Either way, it would be great to know who the oud player is when you receive them.

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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 07:16 PM


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Hi Jameel

Did you manage to find any way of ordering these recordings on the Mirage website, or did you just email them? I guess they are on CD rather than cassette, but I could not really tell from the site either. Either way, it would be great to know who the oud player is when you receive them.

Best wishes

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I emailed them today. Waiting for a response. I'll keep you posted




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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 08:11 PM


I am taking a shot in the dark and at the expense of sounding ignorant... But could the name of the artist be Sameh Adel or "Same7 3adel"? I see that written in Arabic on the covers you posted.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 08:14 PM


Hi

What else does it says there? (below the artist name)



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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 08:33 PM


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What else does it says there? (below the artist name)


Salam


It says: with permission from Al-Nazaer Company - Kuwait.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 10:58 PM
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You guys, don't break my heart. Sameh Adel is the founder of the Mirage Record Co. See here: http://www.mirage-records.com/aboutus.php
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[*] posted on 5-17-2004 at 11:17 PM
What it says


Guys,

Sameh Adel is the Producer of the records.
The company is indeed "Mirage (Digital)"
The rest is the titles of the songs, but nowhere is there the name of the musicians. Sorry...

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[*] posted on 5-18-2004 at 12:59 AM
Sunbati


I have the first and the second of the Al-Nazaer Sunbati CDs (I got them in Kuwait). Yes, the style is different from Sunbati's, perhaps not as refined although technically very accomplished. I find the incessant tremolo a bit overpowering, but it's good stuff apart from that.
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[*] posted on 5-21-2004 at 12:34 PM


I wrote to the company in Egypt, but they won't sell to us here in the USA. Bummer.

Zul, can you get these CD's in Malaysia? I would really like to have these, but I'm especially disappointed now after years of searching.




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[*] posted on 5-21-2004 at 02:35 PM


I contacted the folks at maqam.com. The owner really appreciates the classics, and was excited about these cd's. He's going to try to order a bunch. Apparently he's dealt with this compnay before.
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[*] posted on 5-21-2004 at 05:14 PM


Hi Jameel

Email me what you want and I get them post to you if its available (cant get it here but I can get it for you while Im in Cairo end of this month) :)



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[*] posted on 6-10-2004 at 05:09 AM


Hi Jameel

I manage to grab some audio tape while in Cairo-check out some of the images below :-
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[*] posted on 6-10-2004 at 05:10 AM


....another one
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[*] posted on 6-10-2004 at 05:12 AM


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[*] posted on 6-10-2004 at 05:13 AM


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[*] posted on 6-11-2004 at 01:52 PM


Hey Zul,

Are these the same as the Cd's on their website? The covers look a little different. Have you discovered maybe some new recordings for Sunbati? Let us know. In the meantime, hopefully maqam.com will start carrying these albums. Tell us more about your trip to Egypt.




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[*] posted on 6-12-2004 at 08:20 AM


Hi Jameel

Yes its the same one-so far i only found those recording that involve Sunbathi n Omm Khulthum. I will inform you if theres a different one ;)
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[*] posted on 6-12-2004 at 10:40 AM


Hey Zul,

Those first two pictures you put up are of the Saeed Issa recordings. There are four of them, and they are available on most Arabic CD websites. They aren't the mirage records tapes. I think the third picture might be though. The last one is the Sunbati taqsims. Glad to hear you had a great time in Egypt, and welcome back!

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[*] posted on 6-12-2004 at 07:37 PM


Hi!

Thanks Mike! Glad to be back here too! Yes the first 2 pics are from Said Issa recordings (I only manage to get those 2 volumes) The Sunbathi/Khulthum that I have there are the last one of the third set from Mirage Record.

Salam
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