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carpenter
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slow but sure - oud #3
Mike gets an Egyptian pyramid, I get my Irish doggies. Here's the rose, and a not-yet-glued-on pegbox backplate to match. Ribs cut, bent and shaped,
neck finished, bowl fixture ready to roll; progress reports to come.
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amtaha
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Now that photo shows nothing but love ...
Ah! Your work is becoming an addiction!
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Jameel
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That's just plain cool Jim! Can't wait to see the rest. Love the delicate interwoven carving of the rose too.
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Beautiful.
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Thanks, all. I had more time than money, so this one's jeweler's-sawed out, with a little X-Acto knife work to finish. (As nice as that laser-cut rose
turned out ... maybe next time.) All I have to do is to build the rest of the oud up to this level, yes?
I had a wood constraint this time. I'm using really nice mahogany from a side rail of my daughter's unwanted antique bed frame. (I'm a big proponent
of urban recycled logging.) There were so many bolt and screw holes, I had to go with a seventeen-rib design to fit the available width of the
material, without doing any plugging. We'll see how it goes, but with enough attention on the front end of the project, it should practically build
itself, right?
This one may take more time; I'm going to turn the tuning pegs. If there's interest or demand, I'll put up a photo series. A little practice first,
then we'll see. Fitting the pegbox to the neck, progress reports as they happen.
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I for one would love to see a series on turning the pegs. Anything else for that matter! Thanks.
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Jonathan
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WOW. What kind of wood did you use for the rosettes? How thick?
You got a really cool 3-d effect going on there.
I love the back of the pegbox--very lute-like.
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The wood is really dense mahogany, avg. .080 thick. Here's a detail photo - the cuts aren't all that deep to give the 3-D illusion; 10 thou, maybe.
Not exactly a V-cut, more of a vertical cut and a gentle falloff on the shadow side. It's pretty strong for what it is; making those cuts any deeper
would effectively make it a piece of paper where the cuts are. Careful!
The pegbox back is a wee bit thicker, with wider element lines. I probably could've gotten away with thinner. (If it blows up, I know a guy who can
make a new one.) Kind of a lute-y thing going on there, agreed, but I like the visual lightness, and if I'm happy...
Pressing deeper into peg territory.
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Still fitting the pegbox to the neck. So far, so good - the full pierced effect, with a little ebony veneer and ivory end piece. I'm a little
conflicted about doing the 3-D carving thing here, but I probably will. Mostly I like the relatedness with the rose.
I'm also thinking about some maple stringing along the pegbox curves. As much as I like the plain-brown-wrapper, simple style, it just seems to need a
little something. We'll see.
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I posted those peg-making photos in Advice, Tips, and Questions - Making Pegs.
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Pegbox results, victory claimed. (Maple stringing? What was I thinking?)
I just checked, and that bowl isn't making itself. I'd best get busy.
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Jonathan
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Very nice. Almost has an art nouveau look to it.
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It's pretty cool-lookin' with the light coming through it. I hope I stopped this side of Art Drecko ... I think it will look good all together.
The pegs are some bubinga I've been moving out of my way for years, and I won't use it again. Well, maybe if I need a floor for a horse stall or some
freight trailer decking. It's tough! Polishes up beautifully, looks like rosewood, turns pretty nicely, but it was sure crabby to shave the tapers;
wanted to splinter and chatter, and it eats tool edges fast. Could be I got a funny piece. I'm going back to boxwood regardless.
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Dude !! Very cool and unique work, thanks for all the postings, much appreciated.
Regards..Paul
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Wow, that is looking great!
I really love the open work on the headstock 
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Gorgeous work, Jim. Love the pegs and especially the little quirk on the inside edge of the pegbox.
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Is that a string guide on the peg box top edge or did you forget to round that bump over?
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hey man
wow thast amazing how long did it take u to do that ??/
thx sammy
we are lost camels in the desert and wanna find our way to water and the water is in aden
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Just look how natural the Celtic scrollwork looks on the
oud; simply beautiful!
We see here that ideal joining up of artistic taste with
the craftsmanship necessary to realize the idea.
David
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Thanks so much, all. Appreciate the feedback.
<< Is that a string guide on the peg box top edge or did you forget to round that bump over? >>
Oops, did I forget to do that? I was knifing away on the string relief, and it just sort of happened; I liked it, and there it is. If pressed, I'd
call it Art, but then I'm likely to say just about anything. "Often wrong, never uncertain."
<< how long did it take u to do that ??>>
The pierced work was a couple of hours extra beyond making a plain pegbox, not counting headscratching and drawing time. The pegs took far too long
for my taste; just out of practice, I guess.
The easy part's over.
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Keeping the "slow" in "slow but sure" - the initial rib glued up. The neck block clamping gizmo seems to be working as expected, and I put this former
in at the widest point of the bowl. The rib is verifiably right down the center and twist-free; the former also provides a little insurance for
checking on alignment issues later on. It's screwed on from the bottom, so I can drop it out if needs be, but it looks worthwhile so far.
If I don't wear my tinfoil hat all the time, I get these Ideas ... some of them actually pan out.
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Jesse Frank
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I like the way you're doing the back.... that clamping jig looks great.... I'm still reeling from that headstock, too. Great stuff!
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Thanks, Jesse. The bowl's going okay, no complaints (tho' 'faster' would be good). That neck block gizmo seems to be worth figuring out. It's early
yet.
The decorative business is good-looking, but a real easy trap for me to fall into. Structurally sound, decent craftsmanship, action/playability, tone
... then the "fuzzy dice." If the oud looks good as a whole, I'll be happy, even happier if it sounds good!
I'm just a baby here (#3?!); I don't know much for sure. 50 or 100 instruments from now, I might be "getting it." I recall reading somewhere about a
guy who had made 480 ouds. At my 3-a-year rate ... hey, only 160 years to go! I'd better get busy. Maybe I could outsource the hard stuff to Jameel
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Progress - such as it is - report
Well, it's a bowl, all right, pretty much fresh off the form here. I have to say, seventeen ribs is a much stricter teacher than nine ribs; that
half-millimeter difference can stack up in a hurry. No real errors, just Learning Moments (heh). There are a couple of inexplicable small cracks that
I'll carve some slivers to glue in; better than glue-and-sawdust, I think; just more attention.
On to the top soon - and probably more surprises. Adds spice!
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Looks good... Is that a pull plane? I've never used one. If it is, how do you like it?
Jesse
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