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Sazi
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World-wide collaboration?
I'm not sure this is the right place to post this, but I'm sure our intrepid moderators will move it if need be
We have an amazing amount of talent here @ Mike's, - obviously a huge number of oud players, many of whom play a number of different instruments, some
very knowledgeable and capable sound engineers, composers, arrangers, producers etc., and others perhaps with less experience in these fields, but
still with interesting styles or ideas.
How about a world-wide collaboration?
I haven't thought about the nitty-gritty's yet, - I'm sure there would be a lot of details to work out, - just wanted to throw the idea "out there"...
Any thoughts or ideas?
Cheers, S
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FLIPAX
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Hey Saz Great Idea....
Why don't we release a real record cd compilation of taksim from different players here in the forum.
Each player can record professionally there there tracks and sent it. If There is someone can do the final mastering or editing. And Also copyright
for the cd.
Mike oud's Taksim! and we can sell it to the public. and also
copyright it and give benefits to the player who made the recording. This will be a international release. so everyone can buy it directly with mike
or some manages the sales etc etc....
Also if the cd can be split into themes like:
Ist Part: List of Makams. So we can showcased different makams played by players here. e.g. One Makam One Person Etc.. etc...
2nd Part: Can Be a Anything that he composed no bounderies here.
So all in all 2 Songs for each person willing to contribute.
If someone will organise and willing to master the tracks and print.
We have also a lot of artist here that do designing. hecan make the art work for MIke Oud Taksim.
It would be a great achievement to MIke Oud's.
Let all the People know about this.
I will try to talk to mike about this...
It is also good because we have something to look back in time and listen. And not only you but a lot of players will also play so when u listen to
the cd it will be amazing and fresh all the tim.
Its good to see an Oud cd that played by various Oudist from all over the world.
And Some Bio also from the player. Pictures, Links etc etc. So every one has the cd has a lot to look foward into.
And Here he can also add information if he is a luthier. one way of also advertising he's oud making.
Its very nice to have a cd compilation that we can share all over the world.
What do u thinks SaZ?
e.g.
If I'm starting oud and I visit Mike ouds for the first time. and see the CD I will defenitely buy it. If I'm into Oud. Like we all are.
Its a + + thing. Someboy will surely buy this. Beautiful cd.
Gather all the player around here spread the word my friend!
kindest regards
Philip
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Sazi
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Don't throw the ball back to me, pass it to someone else, we'll analyze the game later...
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Ok
No Problem!
I'll U2U mike Regarding this.
Cheers
Pass the words.........
Thanks
Philip
BTW Also it does not need to be a specific makam.
Any 2 song composition will be fine.
Lets wait for mike's input about this.
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"Naseem Al Rooh"
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David.B
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Have you ever heard this ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM
This is what I think about when you evoke a "World-wide collaboration?" Sazi 
Just a dream, difficult to realize such a thing !
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FLIPAX
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Thats Amazing David!
Im just watching it.
I will fill in the details after I watch it.
Cheers
Philip
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David.B
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Many songs like this Philip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAjFnJuk1Aw&feature=channel
Even if Stand By Me is my favorit 
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FLIPAX
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This very chill man!
Thanks for the videos
what do u think about the record cd collaboration?
Philip
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David.B
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It would be interesting, even if it's a big machine to move ! If I'm pragmatic and I think about me : my recordings are not pro, and I don't think
many of us get the material to record themselves properly... BTW it could be interesting to get rough recordings ; one of my dream is to travel and
record oud players all around the world, at home, restaurants, in the street... Something non-professional, so. The big deal is, who play what and the
level of audibility ?
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FLIPAX
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Quote: Originally posted by David.B  | my recordings are not pro, and I don't think many of us get the material to record themselves properly...
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Hopefully you can get help from a professional person who does recording. and to help u record your oud solo. Find someone in your state that can
help.
Actually it does not need to be professional oudist because it not just the way it is.
The important thing here is we can showcase our playing to the world and something to look at when we are old.
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BTW it could be interesting to get rough recordings ; one of my dream is to travel and record oud players all around the world, at home, restaurants,
in the street...
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That's good to hear man!
What do u mean exactly level of Audibility?
Flip
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Aymara
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And what about people, who play different music like Rock or medieval European music?
| Quote: | | So all in all 2 Songs for each person willing to contribute. |
That might result in a Double-CD or even more
Youtube has censored these videos due to copyright reasons ... even if I change my location in Youtube 
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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FLIPAX
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No problem they can composed also. But it should have the oud instrument on the track. Mix Genra's are more interesting. I think its acceptable. But
this is more hard work of recording and mixing and editing. More job for the Engineer.
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So all in all 2 Songs for each person willing to contribute.
That might result in a Double-CD or even more
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That's more better. The More the merrier. Lot of Taksims!
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Youtube has censored these videos due to copyright reasons ... even if I change my location in Youtube
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Try u94 or Hotspot shield it will unblock sites and links.
That's what I use here in UAE. Coz some of the sites are also block.
Cheers
Philip
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Sazi
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Hmmm, I think about something quite different...
It's a reality for a lot of people in the recording industry now, nobody has the money to be flying people in just to lay down a track or to mix or
produce, so people are sending their stuff to others all over the world to do their bit and send it back. (In fact people are making money from just
this kind of thing.)
ok, back to you guys,
Cheers, S
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wowow
NIce
Intermission!
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Sazi
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| Quote: Originally posted by David.B | | It would be interesting, even if it's a big machine to move ! If I'm pragmatic and I think about me : my recordings are not pro, and I don't think
many of us get the material to record themselves properly... |
This is the kind of thing I'm thinking of, you've heard my old youtube recordings that were done on a cheap and nasty oud with an equally cheap and
nasty mic, yet with a bit of judicious tweaking by someone with a bit of decent gear or plug-ins, it ends up half decent.
This is something I'm thinking about too, quite a few people here are into early music, it would be good to do something like this.
is that so? why does it have to be that way?
When I threw the idea out there, I guess I was thinking of something more along the lines of say, you have an idea, pass it to someone to listen to,
to get their ideas on it, or to add say, a nay, or duduk, or drone, help with arrangement, add strings, bass, whatever. The process would have to be
agreed on by whoever is involved in that particular piece, & if the mixer/producer was not too emotionally involved in the playing and just
approached it as if it was a commercial release, there should be no concern about things being or not being heard, I don't imagine all of us playing
on every piece.
But hey, this is just an idea, and I'm interested in where we could take it, or what other ideas come from it, I'm sure it could evolve into something
quite different... eh Flip?
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G’Day Sazi, Dave, and Aymara,
I think it is a gre Pil, andat idea. I was thinking about the same thing for a while.
Actually, I have a couple of ongoing projects that are based on the idea of” international corporation” thanks to members from the forum and from
outside the forum. More details to follow later.
Maybe we should start moving forward in terms of a solid plan to start. I suggest that we start with a youtube video, gather as many clips as
possible, get someone to do the montage, and then we can take a vote later whether we should pursue a DVD production.
I also suggest that all the profits go to a charity cause that we should identify as well.
Thanks for the brilliant idea. I am sure that we have enough passion and enthusiasm within the group to “assimilate” more cultures into serious
oudism!
Salaam,
Hatem
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Hi Hatem!
| Quote: Originally posted by Hatem_Afandi |
I suggest that we start with a youtube video, gather as many clips as possible, get someone to do the montage, and then we can take a vote later
whether we should pursue a DVD production.
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Actually tony already started a video collage of many oud member players here in the forum. The DVD Idea is great hatem.
Here's the Link of the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuPFuaDJNqc
Here's the topic from Tony's Thread:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=9991
Definetely My friend!
Cheers
Have a Great Day.....
Tell me what u think Hatem? Thanks
Philip
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Aymara
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Mmh ... I see two different approaches until now:
1. An audio or video sampler of individual recordings.
2. see below:
| Quote: Originally posted by Sazi | | ..., you have an idea, pass it to someone to listen to, to get their ideas on it, or to add say, a nay, or duduk, or drone, help with arrangement, add
strings, bass, whatever. |
And here we are talking about real collobaration and with the help of Reaper we could even form a virtual band and do a professional multi track recording.
But without good bandwidth the data transfer would be a real pain ... especially uploads. An alternative would be the data exchange between musicians
by CD and snail mail, but than the project might take months.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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David.B
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Here we've got something stimulating
I think we should start on something easy, each one with his own possibilities propose something and each one vote (except for his own sound clip).
Then each elected send via post office what he's got to the guy who is able to mix the CD. About the production I don't know. But if we earn money, it
could serve for a kind of "real" association which could allowed us to product something with an artistic collaboration into the different tracks,
like what I posted :
http://www.playingforchange.com/
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David.B
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To me our community sounds like :
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4471685519999859252#
"Crossing the Bridge - The Sound of Istanbul"
Around one instrument, oud, we mix many different cultures and styles and instead of Istanbul we are spread all around the world... Sure there's
something to do here
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Aymara
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I remember that film ... very inspiring.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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A video based on David.B reply:
Playing for change Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6zQG4cJqzo&feature=fvst
Philip
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Hi Phil,
I saw Tonny's video before. The improvisations are very nice. What I meant was actual videos by the members, then thru mix and match a final clip (or
several ones) can be mixed together.
I think it will be a good start of a new concept if that video contains some kind of “medley” representing each player’s background or homeland.
Whoever takes on the task of putting it together should be able to ensure a good mix and match among all the clips.
You have a great day as well,
Hatem
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Hi here
I think its a great idea - you could end up with a box-set if you're not careful
There are all sorts of ways you could pass on a piece of music, one could be just that that the last few phrases of one piece inspire the start of
another piece so they flow together but have different sections like a musical Chinese Whispers.
The other is to simply compile a series of sound files by members and draw them together in themes as you said ie Maqam etc.
Could do both. The sound quality will be an important factor so we may have to help each other out here.
It would be good to have a mix of players from well known more established players to those more like myself - but there needs I think to be good
quality running through ... not just a pile of doodles (a reference to myself btw don't take offence ).
It would be good to hear from others ... we are a very special community I think ... there's magic in them there ouds!!
Best wishes
Leon
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Not an easy task, because many people don't have good enough recording equipment.
| Quote: | | ... there's magic ... |
We are all magicians and our wand is the oud
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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