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[*] posted on 12-19-2009 at 08:00 AM


Hi,

It's a very interesting discussion about bracing systems for ouds. Akoud could you explain why in removing a brace at the base of the soundboard and in adding 2 small braces on each side of the bridge you've got a sound more free with a higher volume? Maybe some luthiers in Mike'sforum could give their theory.

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[*] posted on 12-21-2009 at 01:03 PM


Hello,

About the last post of Sabassi,
I found this information on internet...so many ressource on the web so don't know if it is really sure:
"A soundboard for stringed musical instruments in which the soundboard is reinforced by a series of ribs spaced apart by a distance less than one-half the wave length of the vibration of the soundboard at the fundamental frequency of the highest note on the instrument scale."

This would mean than for a tuning in Fa there would need more ribs than for a tuning in Do for a same soundboard length, and so explain the more number of ribs placed on the iraki construction.

What do you think about Sabassi, do you think it make sense?




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[*] posted on 12-21-2009 at 03:32 PM


It's the same pattern as Munshed uses. A design that leads back to Mohammed Fadel and seems to be the pattern that Iraqi builders use.

Quote: Originally posted by suz_i_dil  
I'm not luthier, but I think it depends on the kind of sound you are looking for.
This number of braces seems quite usual with iraki makers, another exemple here (thabet el basry):
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=4229

I know another well known maker, not iraki, who put the same number of braces on his floaters.





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[*] posted on 12-21-2009 at 03:32 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ronny Andersson  

Matthias, you are sure that Bashir used the same as Shamma? I want to remember that he used other numbers/Pyramid strings.


Dear Ronny,

you are right, Munir Bashir had PYNR 0600 for the f and PYNR 0650 for the c. The other strings are correct.

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[*] posted on 12-21-2009 at 03:41 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Matthias  
Quote: Originally posted by Ronny Andersson  

Matthias, you are sure that Bashir used the same as Shamma? I want to remember that he used other numbers/Pyramid strings.


Dear Ronny,

you are right, Munir Bashir had PYNR 0600 for the f and PYNR 0650 for the c. The other strings are correct.

Regards Matthias


Thanks Matthias for refreshing my memory.

I had totally forgot the numbers for the strings that Bashir used since I switched from nylon to nylgut. I usually never write down anything...





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[*] posted on 1-6-2010 at 03:10 PM


Could we find the same kind of bares at each side of the bridge for a fixed bridge oud? How these bares give a higher sound for the oud?

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