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Nazih Oud (UPDATED WITH SOUND CLIP ADDTL INFO)
I am looking at purchasing this specific 984 oud from Mr. Nazih Ghadban for approximately $600. Id like to know your feed back, and what you
professionals think. I am beginner and am planning to learn so i have some reservations on spending so much on a oud. I also requested some
information from him about the oud and a sound clip, will keep you guys updated thanks for any help and assistance.
Attachment: 984.mp3 (485kB)
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samzayed
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I've owned a Nazih oud before, and I wish I had his oud when I started. For $600, this looks like a great oud and at a great price. It's hard to get
a decent playable oud for under $400 in the US. For a couple hundred more, you'll get a top notch oud.
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LEBANISZ
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I am purchasing the Oud in Lebanon and its a second hand oud that he is selling
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My advice is to buy it now...
How is the sound? do you like it? is it easy to play well?
thats the deal of the century on a Ghadban oud. if down the road you want to upgrade to something a little bit better you will be able to sell it
easily.
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Mehran
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What a deal...buy it.
It seems well made and very well priced. You would have to try very hard to find another oud at a better price and quality than this.
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LEBANISZ
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I requested a sound bite, and im not sure if it is easy to play well i dont play i plan on learning how to play it
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Reda Aouad
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Well.. Ghadban ouds have good to excellent playability.. and at worst cases it should be very good for a beginner. And his ouds are very well-made as
well. Personally, I think it's the best deal you can have in terms of quality/price ratio and it will probably last you till your advanced levels
where you might start thinking of buying a 1st-grade oud. But at the end it may only get down to if you like its sound or not..
Bottom-Line: Deal highly recommended
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For a Ghadban it's attractively priced. Still, if you can get an oud with an adjustable neck, a Sukar or a Fadi Matta, that would save you from having
to accept the action the way it is (or will become).
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Reda Aouad
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You're right Fernand.. But I highly doubt he can find a Matta Oud at this price.. such deals are occasional..
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There is absolutely nothing wrong about a traditional neck joint if its well made.
I would rather not have metal pieces in my oud.
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Reda Aouad
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What's wrong with metal parts ? I don't particularly like them.. but sometimes the adjustable (Sukar or Matta model) neck comes in really handy when
you want to fix it yourself..
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It makes your oud beep when you go through security 
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LEBANISZ
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I sincerely appreciate all the feedback and all the help, I am still waiting on the sound sample which i will post, but can you guys let me know how i
can identify the adjustable neck vs. the traditional neck? im assuming the nazih oud that i posted pictures of has a traditional neck
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Visit Nazih's website, where you'll find sound samples of some of the ouds, he made ... they all sound phantastic.
| Quote: | | im assuming the nazih oud that i posted pictures of has a traditional neck |
All of Nazih's ouds don't have an adjustable neck ... there are currently only three luthiers worldwide building adjustable necks.
But as long as the oud stays in the region, where it was made, that's not a big problem, when it was well built ... which I expect from Nazih 
But when an oud is built in a very dry region and is then exported and played in a region with a much higher humidity, it might become a problem in
the future. This might be the case, when a middle eastern built oud is imported to the US or Northern Europe.
BTW ... one question, which comes into my mind ... why is this oud so cheap? Even used Nazih ouds usually are much more expensive.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Hi,
actually Nazih does have some models with an adjustable neck, see here, scroll down to the end.
I'm not sure that having a non-adjustable neck is a big issue anyway.. unless you live thousands miles away from any luthier. If the action is good
and will need to be reset in ten years I would not be concerned about it...
Anyway I think 600$ for an oud from Nazih in good condition is a very good deal.. and, if I understand, it has been offered by Nazih himself?
In this case I would not worry at all just go ahead !
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Dan
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Hi again!
Oh, yes, thanks for the hint ... model #1012 is adjustable. Because it has an open soundhole, I would expect it to be adjustable from the inside
similar to Sukar ouds?
Interesting topic
| Quote: | | If the action is good and will need to be reset in ten years I would not be concerned about it... |
We had reports here in the forums, where it became a serious problem after only 5 years ... horrible for Europeans or others, that don't have an oud
luthier nearby.
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... and, if I understand, it has been offered by Nazih himself? |
If that's the case, I would hurry up and buy at once
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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buy it now before someone else does. An oud by Nazih for that price, and for a beginner is A DEAL. Anyone who has an oud by Nazih will tell you they
are very good; I have one myself. It will keep it's value as time goes by, and as an oud to start learning on it's like having a Mercedes to learn to
drive with. regards, MW
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Reda Aouad
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You also have a Mercedes ? 
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MatthewW
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Reda, I decided to let my girlfriend have the Rolls Royce and am now using the Mercedes.
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Ghadban makes good ouds. It's a great deal. You should probably buy it. Nazih should make it right if the action is bad, no?
For me its very important to be able to adjust the action. Wood stretches and settles, no matter where you live. Soundboards, for instance. When you
have an adjustable neck, you use it now and then to tweak the timbre and feel. A neck job on a traditional oud is no small task, even if you have a
luthier in the building. It's hard on the oud, and in western countries it's hard on the wallet. Of course people put up with what they have. So many
older ouds have miserable actions! I have so seldom seen a traditional oud whose action was to my taste that I conclude it's largely a case of "sour
grapes". You know this expression?
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LEBANISZ
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L'oud 984 (THE ONE IN THE PICTURE) is made of walnut (for the bowl)and spruce(for the top).
ALSO I WILL BE PURCHASING IT IN LEBANON AND LIVE IN JEDDAH SAUDI ARABIA, WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE FINDING A TEACHER,
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... which is a good combination.
| Quote: | | ..., WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE FINDING A TEACHER |
There is a teacher in Cairo, who gives lessons over the internet by Skype (video conferencing). Fernand Raynaud tested it and can tell you more. BTW
... Hassan (the teacher) is a member of the forums too.
Greetings from Germany
Chris
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Reda Aouad
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Nice sound! Well.. for a beginner I can't see a better deal.. hurry up!
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Walnut of different sorts is one of the best bowl woods. Spruce speaks for itself. So you are taking it from the shore of one sea to the shore of
another? that helps. Also living where you do, you have no shortage of oud-capable luthiers. It's a lot easier getting an oud neck reset in Jeddah
than in Shanghai, or Dallas, Texas. I Hope you buy that oud.
Hassan is a very nice, helpful and adaptable teacher. Skype is not perfect but usable.
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