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[*] posted on 7-3-2011 at 11:04 AM
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Hello everyone, I bought Sabbassi oud of $ 675 euros, I asked him to reduce the price to 600 he did not accept . and after 6 days to reduce the amount to 600 euros, and after his speech by telephone is the amount to 650 euros

It gave me 4 reasons to change the price

1- tha suprus price higher than the price of cider

2 - Indian Rose wood price more expensive than a walnut and mahogany

3 - 600 not include shipping

4 - Fadel the 25 euro reduction is for encouragement

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طريقة الشحن هي عن طريقة TNT track اند trace

لقد ارسلت أعوداً كتيرة والحمدلله لم يتكسر واحد. أعمال صندوقاً متيناً من الكرتون و فيه العود . الود هو أيضاً في حقيبة.
العود مع الشحن مؤمن بتمن العود.

i donet hav the track nomber for tnt

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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 12:26 AM


look i have purchased 2 ouds from sabbassi and i am happy he is a reputable seller and honest i dont know him personally but i can tell you he makes a fantastic oud . He's ouds are a work of art and in my opinion are worth alot more. so fadel i think you got a great oud for a good price be happy with it brother because i can say when u play it you will be glad you bought it.
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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 01:02 AM


hi

my problem why he change the price after 6 day

can u ask him why he gave me 4 reasons to change the price

I asked him to reduce the price to 600 he did not accept .

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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 01:52 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fadel  
I asked him to reduce the price to 600 he did not accept .


Why should he?

I bet there would be enough other people around the forums interested in buying a brand new rosewood oud for 650 Euros incl. bag and shipping. Don't you think so?

If you think it's too expensive, don't buy it and try to find a cheaper oud of similar quality for less ... good luck ... it will be a hard search.

Sorry, if I sound a bit harsh, but I can't understand, what's the problem here. You first accepted Sabbassi's offer of 675 Euros for oud, bag & shipping and now this "basar behaviour" even after he reduced the price to 650.




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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 04:28 AM


I would respectfully do a little calculation of how much time it would take to make an oud like this and look at the hourly rate and reflect on what you would expect to be paid for that time.

If we keep putting pressure on the makers - you certainly won't get the chance to get such an oud at anything like this price.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 05:18 AM


Hi Fadel,

I bought the 4th oud on the list from Samir. I saw also the price decrease that you mentionned.

I was really not upset.. why ? because the price that you paid is, in France the price of a Sukar model one. Samir ouds are a real bargain for European players. He does his best to make very good instruments at a honest price. If he wants to lower the prices a bit to speed up the sale what's the problem ?


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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 09:19 AM


Hi Fadel,

I you go to the market at the first hour, your vegetable and fruits will be more expensive than in the end. It's the law of the market (good translation ? of the french term 'la loi du marché').
I thought everybody knew that.
By the way, as others already said, I think it's difficult to get so a nice oud for that price.

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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 10:27 AM


hi

Aymara and Ararat 66

yase it is good prisc 675euro

my problem why he change the price after 6 day to 600euro but after I coll him telephon he change to 650 euro

Danielo

it is no problem to chang the prisc but in 6 day !

Microber

it is not vegetable market
I do not think oud ruin after 6 days

my problom why he chang after 6 day

I hav ouds 1500$ 2000$
I'm not talking about the price

Why he not comment and explain why

Thanks for all and I'm glad this discussion









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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 11:58 AM


Hi Guys,

Thanks for the trust and nice comments. Well I'm a memeber of this forum for long time now , and haven't had had something like this before.

I just read it 10 min ago. my god !!!! the thread name is sabbassi, make me happy though :)

any way I have no comments to put online because I always believe things should be solved between the buyer and the seller in a friendly manner. although there is nothing to solve here :) .

Oud making is a hobby, and my passion also, I do not make my living of it. I'm very proud that people enjoy my ouds and play with it. I'm thankful for that. this are 4 different ouds, if all the ouds were the same, I would maybe agree.

What if I asked in the begining lower price for the other ouds, I'm almost sure you would still have gone for the indian rosewood.

you also could have said: samir you are asking too much for the others, mine is more valuable :)


Fadel I hope your oud arrives well, and that you like it. and don't be upset my friend. there is no reason to be.

I did sent you the tnt track and trace . u2u
again: cc005369194NL

http://www.postnlpakketten.nl/klantenservice/tracktrace/basicsearch...


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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 12:24 PM


hi

samir

I am happy to u comments but that the price changes for no reason this is strange .the next time I'll wait to lowering the price, but the problem is that we will not know when they will change the price.

I have spoken with friends interested in buying ouds but I do not know what I tell them how much price.

I am happy that these discussions will help everyone who wants to buy or learn about the oud .

thank samir





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[*] posted on 7-4-2011 at 07:09 PM


I agree with fadel, if the price is reduced for everyone it should be reduced to him too



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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 10:38 AM


hi

Possible one translates

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طريقة الشحن هي عن طريقة TNT track اند trace

لقد ارسلت أعوداً كتيرة والحمدلله لم يتكسر واحد. أعمال صندوقاً متيناً من الكرتون و فيه العود . الود هو أيضاً في حقيبة.
العود مع الشحن مؤمن بتمن العود.

this Sabbassi masseg in my u2u

than he did not sent wthe tnt





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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 10:56 AM


Fadel what is the issue my friend, I actually din't want to reply but lets face it.

I'm not going to do mouse and cats games here , I have better things to do . (He sent , I said, I asked , he did). why don't you just ask me the track number instead of telling every one mikeouds. Mobile, messsages, 1, 2 4 etc..

I may have not or did sent the track number, do you trust anyone in this planet?

I can translate:

I have sent many ouds and no one have been broken, I make a good and solid box including the soft b ox. the oud is insured by the selling price.

we have been chating a lot true u2u as friends , why don't you put the whole thing in mike ouds. p in a ....

We are all oud lovers and all doing this for fun of business.
As far as I'm concerned I'm doing it for fun, so lets keept it this way please.





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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:14 AM


hi

yase chating like a friend

I would like to be friends

But you did not do what we agreed to be

Did not explain the reason for lowering the price after 6 days

u did not send the same company that tnt

I did not choose the company, but you told me that you will be sent by tnt

I hope that did not matter to reach this but you pushed me for this

I hope to explain to everyone what are the reasons for the reduction honestly, why not send a oud on the company agreed ( tnt )





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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:24 AM


Fadel please:

Fadel you are accusing me indirectly of cheating or dishonesty.of what. I can lower, higher ask anything. I made this ouds myself. your oud is not the same as the other ouds.

I guess i'm not the only one having issues with you Fadel.

http://www.postnlpakketten.nl/klantenservice/tracktrace/basicsearch...

is the same as TNT, check this out:

and even put it as a present so you don't have to pay the customs or any tax

wait for your oud and see, hope you like it.
tnt.jpg - 523kB






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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:37 AM


hi

I think that the agreement was the company ( tnt ) True or not

Why did not you tell me about this company and why tell my ( tnt ) If you will not be sent wthe ( tnt )

I hope to explain to everyone what are the reasons for the reduction honestly.





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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:44 AM


Fadel, read the form in the pictures. It is a BIIIIGGGGG TNT. I did send it with tnt. how many languages do you want me to write with.

this is my last message in this topic.




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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:49 AM


Paying up front is the price for the security of the exact instrument you want. I fail to see how this is a problem here. I would gladly pay in order to secure the instrument I want.

I fear these kind of threads could stifle/discourage new luthiers.
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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 11:51 AM


Mehran,
Well said.
I seriously thought today stop making ouds for a while and sell only to friends and close people. I have never had something like this before.

:) wan't my last message :)
thanks




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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 12:01 PM


hi
samir

i am sorry for that yase wthe ( tnt )


Believe me, I wish to say sorry to reduce the price

relly I like u work

I like maker of the oud . but prices change in a short time no reasons is the problem

I hoop donet stop

this is my last message to.



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[*] posted on 7-5-2011 at 12:04 PM


No worries mate, everything is ok now.

Salam




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[*] posted on 7-6-2011 at 05:12 AM


Please samir dont stop making ouds it would be a shame if you hide your talent from the world of ouds because you truly are a master and artist I love playing your ouds they are fantastic and everyone that plays your ouds here in melb Australia thinks that they sound magical keep up the good work and KEEP MAKING OUDS BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE ANOTHER ONE WHEN I CAN AFFORD IT !!!!!!!!!:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
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