idoromano
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Makam Defining..
Hallo members...
I have some scale in mind that i would like to transform into a makam system, so i wanted to know if there's any makam called like that in the turkish
makam system.
simply its a blend of "saba zamzam" (from arab maqamat) makam and kurdi makam
the main makam is kurdi but the conclusion of the makam ends with a hicaz on the fourth degree...
Example:
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Plum_Pasha
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Saba Zemzeme is a fairly rare makam in Turkey, but I think it is legitimate within that makam to play normal Kürdi as an internal modulation, so I
would suggest simply calling it Saba Zemzeme.
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yes.. i know.. in turkey there isn't such makam, and i ment to do mainly a kurdi makam and the modulation will be hicaz tetrachord on neva (4th
degree)
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Brian Prunka
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This seems more like a "shuri zamzam" if I can make up a name.
Shuri is Bayyati + Hijaz, you have Kurd + Hijaz.
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Quote: Originally posted by idoromano  | | yes.. i know.. in turkey there isn't such makam, and i ment to do mainly a kurdi makam and the modulation will be hicaz tetrachord on neva (4th
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Some Saba Zemzeme through history from "Turkish" composers, have a look:
http://www.neyzen.com/saba_zemzeme.htm
http://www.semazen-doc.com/dosyalar/ayinnotalar/31_sabazemzeme.zip
Also this is the same cesni we find within Sevkefza and Sevkutarab methinks?
I'm interested to see how you get to hicaz on Neva as karar, got any sound samples or melodies to share?
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idoromano
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i was all wrong, i messed it all up.. saba has the hicaz on the 3rd degree, and i ment on the 4th degree....
just look at the images i uploaded at the first post..
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idoromano
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you can see it as nikriz on cargah (3rd degree) it would be even more precise..
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What you've written looks like shuri (karcigar), but with kurd for the second degree instead of sikah.
http://www.neyzen.com/karcigar.htm
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