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[*] posted on 6-20-2012 at 01:34 PM
bass oud


bass oud by Bassem Yusouf Yaqub, Baghdad, Iraq
(property of Arabic Oud House, Cairo)

ps. and the double bass oud is really:buttrock:

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[*] posted on 6-20-2012 at 02:04 PM


I still continue to think bass ouds are cool, despite the consensus. I want to hear a nice bass oud taqsim on this one.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2012 at 02:05 PM


of course, i'll post it soon.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2012 at 02:37 PM


It looks great.. cant wait to hear you play it!
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[*] posted on 6-20-2012 at 02:55 PM


I want one!
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[*] posted on 6-21-2012 at 06:33 AM


I have one which Im thinking fo selling, anyone interested?
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[*] posted on 6-22-2012 at 10:14 AM


Quote: Originally posted by jass  
I have one which Im thinking fo selling, anyone interested?


What kind do you have and how much?
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[*] posted on 6-23-2012 at 03:40 PM


http://youtu.be/xAsDh8TTaH0



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[*] posted on 6-23-2012 at 04:25 PM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVqXbhg25NQ



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[*] posted on 7-2-2012 at 02:41 PM


the double bass oud)

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[*] posted on 7-3-2012 at 12:33 AM


Great instrument, the bass oud!! And there's a lot of innovative stuff which could be done with it, played alongside the traditional oud. Maybe a duo, oud and bass oud. Or an oud orchestra, a' la Nasser Shamma, with a couple of bass ouds for the bottom end........very cool......
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[*] posted on 7-4-2012 at 01:07 AM


An "idea" for oud players. A six string fretless electric bass! It's easier to find than a six string bass oud.
These guys carry some nice fretless Chinese basses, like SX, Brice and Douglas. They seem a little low in inventory at the moment. This Brice model is really nice for the price.

http://www.rondomusic.com/hxb406natspfl.html

They sometimes also have nice short scale fretless basses, like the one on the left (with fretline marker inlays), that cost all of $129.

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My 6 string is a Douglas, nice rosewood fingerboard, electronics home-augmented with piezos under the bridge. I tune it the same as my ouds, C, E, A, d, g, c.

They even have a lovely fretless guitar
http://www.rondomusic.com/al3110hsbffretless.html
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[*] posted on 7-4-2012 at 01:15 AM


I'm thinking of a 7-string baritone/bass iraqi oud, actually)
The only problem is to find the right luthier)
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[*] posted on 7-4-2012 at 02:02 AM


How loud is that double-bass oud? Is it usable in an ensemble?
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[*] posted on 7-4-2012 at 02:07 AM


but of course. it's from the ensemble of Naseer Shamma, together with the bass oud.
i tried it on the rehearsal together with 10 ouds for the moment. sounds excellent.
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[*] posted on 8-18-2012 at 03:38 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
An "idea" for oud players. A six string fretless electric bass!


I chose the Godin A5 (5-string) fretless instead, which can be played both, acoustic and electric. And you can tune it CFADG without problems ... default is BEADG. Downside is, that baby isn't cheap.

BTW ... in MY opinion the bass oud shouldn't be played with a risha, but plucked with the fingers like a double bass. But my taste is special :D ... I even play a conventional oud that way, similar to a lute ... not always, but I often like it.




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[*] posted on 8-28-2012 at 02:28 AM


Hello,

here is another bass oud made by Rabih Haddad from Libanon shown at the 1st Egypt Oud forum 2010.
The picture schows Rabih and me there on the exhibition.

Matthias

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[*] posted on 8-29-2012 at 08:35 AM


Hi Matthias!

Quote: Originally posted by Matthias  
here is another bass oud ...


Due to it's size and body shape it reminds me of a bass Balaleika ;)




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[*] posted on 8-29-2012 at 05:27 PM


...this thing I wonder about is how is this bass-oud suppose to produce the frequencies that those double bass strings are tuned to. Compare the soundboard size and the air space size with this "bass-oud" to a regular double bass. Notice any difference? :shrug:



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[*] posted on 8-29-2012 at 06:02 PM


I would think that one of those Mexican bass guitars puts out more bass.
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[*] posted on 8-29-2012 at 06:50 PM


Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
I would think that one of those Mexican bass guitars puts out more bass.


"bass needs space".... hey! that rhymes...

this bass-oud would function as a semi-acoustic quite well I'm sure... but as an acoustic bass :shrug: ?

PS - I just noticed the bass-oud posted by Mattias... THIS big one I think must sound very nice...




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[*] posted on 8-30-2012 at 01:55 AM


Yes, but I can't imagine the little ones putting out even as much as one of these, with the resonant back & front.
http://www.rondomusic.com/burtha.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6YU_kusI0U&feature=related

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[*] posted on 8-30-2012 at 09:19 AM


Quote: Originally posted by fernandraynaud  
Yes, but I can't imagine the little ones putting out even as much as one of these, ...


Sorry, no offence intended ... but forget these standard acoustic bass guitars ... they are not loud enough and most sound like a down tuned guitar :(

If you want a good acoustic bass guitar, you need a Stoll (german luthier) ... THAT thing rocks. I tested it in a shop ... it's soooo great ... a pocket sized double bass :D




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[*] posted on 8-30-2012 at 09:46 AM


I generally stand behind my first comment on this thread which were that for thick heavy double-bass strings you NEED a huge soundboard and a huge air space. Otherwise what happens is that the strings resonance is only being amplified in it's upper harmonics - the fundamental and lower harmonics basically don't exist (so what's the point?).

Now having said that there is one AMAZING exception to this - and that is the Maroccan gimbri! I can never figure how the hell this thing produces SO much bass with such a tiny little SB and AIR?!! What seems to be happening here is that the fundamental is in fact not particularly low -but the instrument accentuates the ultra low frequencies so the resulting tone sounds much lower than the actual fundamental! No THAT'S a bass!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tY_9WMmbWU




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[*] posted on 8-30-2012 at 10:03 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Edward Powell  
... there is one AMAZING exception to this - and that is the Maroccan gimbri!


Thanks for that tip ... never saw this instrument before. There's a lot of interesting music to explore, when you search for it on Youtube.

I need holidays in Marocco :D




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