Brian Prunka
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Najib Shaheen
Najib's website has some new pictures and audio clips of some ouds he's selling, including a 1922 Nahat.
Najib Shaheen
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revaldo29
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Other than the nahat, Does he make these ouds himself?
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Elie Riachi
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Wow. To my ears, the Nahat sounded the best by far, very rich sound. It sounds close to Jameel's replica of the Nahat I think (So I guess,
there is hope when duplicating.)
The next best in my opinion is the Iraqi oud.
The worst sounding is the Syrian cedar top. I wonder if it is red cedar, which not the real cedar from what I read.
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | >The next best in my opinion is the Iraqi >oud.
This oud looks very much as one of the large ouds made by Fadel. The sound have little resemblance and the top register is descent but not the bas.
The worst sounding is the Syrian cedar top. I wonder if it is red cedar, which not the real cedar from what I read. |
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This cedar specie is of genus Juniperus and have nothing in common with the real cedar of the genus Cedrus which is an authentic soundboard material.
I belive some Turkish oud makers also use red cedar and I can't understand why.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Elie Riachi
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Elie Riachi
The worst sounding is the Syrian cedar top. I wonder if it is red cedar, which not the real cedar from what I read. |
I didn't mean that it sounds bad, it just ranked at the bottom for my taste. Anyway, they all sounded good and I am amazed at how different wach
one sounds.
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Elie
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revaldo29
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Man, that nahat sounds really good. Does anyone know how much they go for these days? Also, are they a good investment? I don't believe the value
will drop because from what I understand, ouds appreciate as they age, but as far as deterioration goes, will that become an issue with an oud that
old.
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Jonathan
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It does sound great. But, if you are asking about if it is a good investment, don't you think that the fact that the face has been changed would
severely affect its collectibility? And, I would think, that its value would in no way compare with an original Nahat. But, I would be interested in
others opinions. It just seems that once the face has been changed, then the sound characteristics of the oud would have changed so greatly, that it
would no longer bring Nahat prices. I hate to look at ouds as an investment, though. But, since the question has been raised, perhaps with fewer
and fewer people (or so it seems) playing the oud these days, that maybe an oud is not such a good investment after all.
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Elie Riachi
| Quote: | Originally posted by Elie Riachi
The worst sounding is the Syrian cedar top. I wonder if it is red cedar, which not the real cedar from what I read. |
I didn't mean that it sounds bad, it just ranked at the bottom for my taste. Anyway, they all sounded good and I am amazed at how different wach
one sounds.
Regards,
Elie |
The basses and sustain is terrible.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Ronny Andersson
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Jonathan
It does sound great. But, if you are asking about if it is a good investment, don't you think that the fact that the face has been changed would
severely affect its collectibility? And, I would think, that its value would in no way compare with an original Nahat. But, I would be interested in
others opinions. It just seems that once the face has been changed, then the sound characteristics of the oud would have changed so greatly, that it
would no longer bring Nahat prices. I hate to look at ouds as an investment, though. But, since the question has been raised, perhaps with fewer
and fewer people (or so it seems) playing the oud these days, that maybe an oud is not such a good investment after all. |
I think that most oud luthiers care little about authencity.
Best wishes
Ronny
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Jonathan
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Perhaps you are right with luthiers (although I am not sure), but I don't think that that is the case with players. And in regards to
revaldo's question, what is of concern to other players is most important. If somebody had the choice, all other things being equal, a player
would go for an original Nahat over one that has been heavily modified.
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