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Fritz
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New Oud made of Padouk
Hi... hope, U like my new Oud made of Padouk, with a very fine tight and straight grained spruce top curved slightly inside in length and a bit in
wide direction... Inlay in the 1,6mm top made of genuine mop, bridge walnut, pickguard made of very thin mahogany, layed in bookmatched pieces
symmetrically.
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aasuits
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nice!
very tasteful design- look forward to seeing the rest! best of luck on it.
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Good job, very beautiful
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Fritz
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Thanks for the interest, aasuits... I will post some new pics soon, when the neck is ready...
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Fritz
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Thanks, bulerías...
The padouk is very uncomfortable to work with... I needed much time to bend them precisely, nearly one whole day...
The top of this Oud has a slight concave surface... this Oud will be able to be played like a turkish one, but with the characteristics of a classical
arabic oud. 600mm string length, 500mm body-length, fine dimensioned sound hole.
The neck is already inserted, only needs to be covered with Padouk... and the fingerboard... may be of ebony or dark rosewood...
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Very nice bowl Fritz.
I also like very much your bookmatched pickguard.
Simple idea, but very original and beautiful.
Could post some picture to show the concavity of the soundboard.
And why did you make it concave ?
Robert
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I've been building most of my ouds with a concave face.. a feature I think I will keep.. and my ouds are Arabic.. Its a smart feature
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Fritz
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Quote: Originally posted by Microber  | Very nice bowl Fritz.
I also like very much your bookmatched pickguard.
Simple idea, but very original and beautiful.
Could post some picture to show the concavity of the soundboard.
And why did you make it concave ?
Robert |
Hi Robert ... nice to read you !
Yes... the Padouk is a beautiful wood in colour and seems to be a nice tone-wood. I will see...
I think I will make only such pickguards in the future... perhaps something like a brand...
The mahogany pickguard will look amazing when the shellaque is applied... very thin viskosity, but enough to make the top nearly safe against
fingertips leaving on the surface when handling the Oud an long time.
I tryed to make some pics of the curved surface... but it is difficult to catch this feature in a picture.. but I will try again... I have got a very
fine photographical equipment.
I made the top concave to meet the needs of some players and Profs... It is a try, to give the playabiltiy of turkish Ouds to arabic ones. I think,
almost all turkish Ouds have such concave top. And some players want to play in turkish style ... on an arabic Oud...
This Oud will sound great I think... with good strings (NylGut)... Next days other pics will be posted... 
Kind regards
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Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by bulerias1981 | | I've been building most of my ouds with a concave face.. a feature I think I will keep.. and my ouds are Arabic.. Its a smart feature
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Hi bulerías...
My bowls are relatively long, about 50cm, and may be 36 - 38cm wide. For arabic-style-Ouds I use to make an stringlength up to 600 or 615 mm. So the
strings do not rattle on the top when played a bit harder.
Also the neck-joint is less stressed when giving a specific angle, and this angle ist needed to let the strings go high enough across the top, but
with an action flat enough to make they playing comfortable.
I have other reasons, too... but it is too much to tell in some lines ... And ... let me keep some secrets
Best wishes
Fritz
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Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by Microber | Very nice bowl Fritz.
I also like very much your bookmatched pickguard.
Simple idea, but very original and beautiful.
Could post some picture to show the concavity of the soundboard.
And why did you make it concave ?
Robert |
Hey Robert
Here are the promised pics about the top I made concave... Have a look... also on the other pics I posted now
The purfling is made of flamed maple... it will shine more when shellaque is applied So the body is completed. Today I made the rest of the necks stripes of Padouk to make the covering complete. Now comes the
fingerboard...
Greetings
Fritz
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Fritz
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I cant post new pics without making a new topic ??
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Dont use the quick reply box at the bottom, use the post reply button at the bottom right of the last post. It will bring you to a new window where
you can insert pics. is this what you are trying to do?
I tried to post a picture and it works fine.
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Fritz
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Hi again...
Thank to Samir for the help... I hadn´t tried out the button he suggested.
Now the next try to post the next pics, not few, but two
The 1st showing the special cone sanded into the ebony fingerboard to give the right action...
The 2nd showing the assembled neck and fingerboard, tuned in the specific angle to the face of the Oud...
Fritz
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Hi fritz nice work I really like your clean workmanship.
I just want to give you a word of advice although it looks now like you are rather far in the process. I have a friend who had a very bad health
problems from the paduk dust.
be carefull with it and wear a mask if you use it.
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Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by SamirCanada | Hi fritz nice work I really like your clean workmanship.
I just want to give you a word of advice although it looks now like you are rather far in the process. I have a friend who had a very bad health
problems from the paduk dust.
be carefull with it and wear a mask if you use it.
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Hi Samir
Your words have good vibes !
Ofcourse I try to work as precisely as I can, but not too precisely... but where is the limit ? Where the upper limit, where the downsize ?
I also try to build an authentic Oud, not a thing in absolute perfection... The right way is a middle between these two, I think. I know the features
I want, and I know the skills I have (learning more every single hour or day in my workshop), and I know what I whant to have in hands later, when the
Oud is built.
Ofcourse I know about the wood, that it is not good to breath the sanding dust... and Padouk, when laying longer untouched, begins to make a thin
layer on it, a misty coating, may be the reaction with molecyls in the air or interactions with different stuffs in the air. I dont know what this
coating is, but with heat it disappears ! I used a hot fan (air gun) to eleminate this coating to prevent any effect on my health. During sanding or
sawing I use a silent vacu to make sure not to let the dust going everywhere... and it would !
Padouk, Ebony, Wenge, even Cedar, Rosewood and many others produce harmful dust... and I would not be a good woodworker when I don´t know such
basics.
I have enough probs with my health... but it is very kind of you thinking and telling me your experience and knowledge about the danger... many thanks
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Be sure, I am careful
Take care of you and have a good time !
Until next
Fritz
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Great job Fritz, absolutely charming!
Special love struck for the pick guard and bridge!
As for the circle the sound hole, I would prefer a regular wooden circle or simply nothing at all.
Congrats once again, can't wait to hear this charming instrument  
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Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by Oud Freak | Great job Fritz, absolutely charming!
Special love struck for the pick guard and bridge!
As for the circle the sound hole, I would prefer a regular wooden circle or simply nothing at all.
Congrats once again, can't wait to hear this charming instrument |
Hi Oud-Freak
Many thanks for your kind words... it seems I make somewhat in the right way ...
The idea for the pick guard comes spontaneously... with some Ouds in mind wich have pick guards made of different veneers and simultaneously sawn in
one step with one dark and one shiny coloured wood. I am making marquetry since about 30 years, and I wanted to give an effect to the guard, not only
one piece of wood (I never use plastic foil like some turkish makers do... brrr... I try to use only natural materials) So the design was born... and
I think I will do it more often on my Ouds.
The bridge is made of flamed walnut, darkened a bit more with dark shellaque. The design is also an idea in the moment I had the piece of wood in
hands. The bows on both sides are relatively short, because the face (very fine spruce) is hard enough to stand the tension with a bridge without any
"wings". But in this pattern it looks well and it matches the design of the Oud. Simple, but nice, I think.
The sound hole... yes... there were some pieces of mop in my drawer... so I decided to use them in this rigid top. May be a sipmle circle looks also
great... I will try it out :-) This Oud will NOT be the last one :-)) But... nothing at all ? No... this would be against the tradition... a sound
hole has to be "framed" with a beautiful what ever :-) Perhaps in a face made of cedar it might look wel... because the cedar has it´s own colour,
it´s own effect... perhaps I try out this, too ...
Thanks again for the very nice comment...
and take care
with best wishes
Fritz
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Fritz
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Shellaque...
To protect the surface of the bowl I made several layers of shellaque, the wood is hard and was sanded up to 600grit, so not few layers are needed to
give such a shining gloss...
I have polished only the body, the pegbox is missing and the beard... than I polish the whole instrument including the neck (wich has got some thin
layers yet) and ofcourse the pegbox... The top is getting only a few very thin turns of shellaque, nearly invisible, but protecting against stain and
so on... The sound will be a bit clearer with this coating, but only an electronically test-equipment will recognise the difference.
Another reason is, that with this coating the wood will not take dust on it... a raw wood would collect every little dust-particles from the
environment.. holding them... and after some time the top will look dirty, and you can´t wipe the dust away, you will rub it insuide the
micro-structure of the wood. This can´t be good... so I give this coating to every top I make. And it also gives a fine silky gloss...
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Fritz
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Hi again
Now the Padouk-Oud is complete... only the pegs are missing ... and some days of french polishing :-)
Take a look :-)
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Fritz
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Now almost finished... the other Oud in the front, too...
The Padouk-Oud ist sounding by every spoken word... you can feel it holding the Oud in hands... and you hear it when stopping the human voice and
listening immediately ! It seems to become a very fine Oud...
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Very nice indeed!
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Fritz
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The Padouk Oud is finished...
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Fritz
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Thanks a lot
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Fritz
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Hi...
I´m going to sell this Oud made of padouk. Any offers ?
It is stringed with D´Addario J59 Set strings... from high tone to low there are the diameters and weights given on the package label :
0,022" 11,7 lbs
0,028" 10,7 lbs
0,025" 19,0 lbs
0,029" 17,7 lbs
0,033" 15,3 lbs
0,041" 13,6 lbs
88lbs
39,92 kg
Depending on string length it may vary I think... String lentgh 23 1/4" or 590mm is used to measure this weights with the tuning :
G D A E B F#
My string length on this Oud is 600mm, the tune is turkish in the moment and can be changed ofcourse.
Contact me if interested.
Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by Fritz | Hi...
Depending on string length it may vary I think... String lentgh 23 1/4" or 590mm is used to measure this weights with the tuning :
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does any oud player past or present use this tuning?
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