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[*] posted on 11-8-2013 at 09:34 AM
For Sale: Michael Moussa Gamil Georges Replica


Hi all. Sadly I have to sell this oud to make room for an awesome antique oud I acquired recently. It's a Gamil Georges design made by my friend Michael Moussa. Najib Shaheen did some work on the fingerboard and pegs so the action is great and the pegs turn incredibly smoothly (while staying put). The scale length is 58.5 CM and the price is $1500 + shipping.
The oud can be seen in the following video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFc2Vt3iS6Y

Here's a recording of the oud I made back in 2012: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/168598325/Taqsim%20Hijaz%20%284%...
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[*] posted on 11-11-2013 at 02:42 PM


hello ameer!

do you have maybe a video where we can hear the oud alone?

thanks!
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[*] posted on 11-12-2013 at 06:43 AM


There are a series of recordings of the oud in this thread from last year:http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=12919
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[*] posted on 11-12-2013 at 10:35 AM


thanks!

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[*] posted on 12-1-2013 at 11:08 AM


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[*] posted on 1-6-2014 at 01:44 PM


This oud is still available.
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[*] posted on 1-31-2014 at 09:51 AM


The oud is still available.
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[*] posted on 2-1-2014 at 01:38 AM


Try to put a decent video for the oud
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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 01:13 PM


Still for sale. Here's a recording of the oud I made back in 2012: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/168598325/Taqsim%20Hijaz%20%284%...
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[*] posted on 2-27-2014 at 12:45 AM


Hello Ameer
If I have not had exactly the same oud by Abu Mina, I would not hestitate a moment to go for this magnificent instrument, the look is fantastic with the rosewood and the mother of Pearl rossette which on itsown will cost 500$- and the sound is deep and authentic as it could be, the best across all your recordings.
If I am you I would never give up such an instrument unless forced to- advertising second hand instruments depreciate them whatever good they are
keep it till somebody who knows what a good oud is about gets stumbled into it!!!- or you realise the great loss you are about to have
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[*] posted on 2-27-2014 at 05:31 AM


Without a doubt it's a beautiful instrument made by a good friend. I've just got 3 ouds in my cramped apartment now and don't play it as much is all.
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[*] posted on 3-1-2014 at 10:29 AM


I don't know why did he use pine wood for the soundboard where he could use spruce or cedar instead :(



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[*] posted on 3-1-2014 at 01:41 PM


M. Fadel occasionally used pine . . . proving pretty conclusively that pine can be used to make great ouds.

Are you sure this is pine? To me, the grain looks too tight to be pine, but I am not an expert on woods. Of course there are over 100 species of pine, so saying "pine" doesn't really tell us much. It may be that some species are more musically suited than others.





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[*] posted on 3-1-2014 at 02:15 PM


In the UK "pine" often means the same wood called "spruce" in the USA. This has caused a lot of confusion. And "sycamore" in the UK is "maple" in the USA. Was there a reference to this sound board being "pine"? I don't see it.
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[*] posted on 3-24-2014 at 07:15 AM


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[*] posted on 4-21-2014 at 04:23 PM


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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 12:09 PM


There is a tree wich name is really pine... depending on the fruits it produces. No other tree in the "pine-family" produces such fruits (eatable)... The fruits of it are nessesary in every good italian Pesto and in every fine salad. But in general : with the term pine there are ment many pine-like trees / woods... in Europa. Only the real spruce has its specific name, perhaps because of its tighter grain (rings) and the missing of strong resin contents. Just this specifies the spruce as the best wood for soundboards, if they will be used on high qualitiy stringed instruments... including pianos ! Only the real spruce top has its potential growing slow and over years... and getting better from year to year.
Without comment, that on a piano it´s impossible to make the board of one or two pieces :)

But 6 pieces on an Oud (allthough they are perhaps bookmatched) ? With changing grain-tightness a few times ? (like the one described here)...

Don Antonio de Torres was building some guitars with tops made of more than 2 pieces... and his own opinion was, that the tightest rings have to be just under the bridge... where the impulse is going trough the woods (simple physical logics). And my opinion is : The membrane (the top) has to be carried on its soft edges (thin material)... unnessesary to say, that only an area with wider rings could match these requirement. Compare with the construction of a loudspeaker ! The hardest core (the coil) is stiff and mounted on a softer, more flexible membrane (the cone). Than the ring of fine thin soft silicone around the cone... mounted on a stiff ring (the metal case) to only hold the coil in position, just moveable in one direction/axis. When the cone would be made of several different materials with different features (hardness / flexibility)... the sound of the speaker won´t be as good as with the cone we know today. The same is with the top of an instrument...

That´s my own opinion, knowledge and experience :)

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[*] posted on 4-27-2014 at 01:37 PM




To create a critical tangent on the topic of a particular oud for sale is in poor taste—Ameer merely said he's selling the oud, he didn't ask for commentary on the building practices of the maker.





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[*] posted on 6-20-2014 at 11:43 PM


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