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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 08:37 AM
Apricot oud


30 years ago I was making cabinets for a custom house near Buellton, CA. I would pass an apricot orchard on the way there and one day noticed a pile of trees in the clearing. I stopped and asked the farmer if I could take some. He said "ok, but put the pile back, I'm burning it in a few days". I took two loads in my pickup back to my shop in Santa Barbara, cut it down, sealed the ends and put it on the roof under a tarp to dry out. First mistake! Much of it checked, probably too hot on the roof. Any way I ended up with enough to make maybe 3 ouds, and its time to start one. This will be a modeled after Manol/Karibyan/Hamza Usta. Good luck to me.




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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 11:48 AM


That's very beautiful wood, Richard, I wonder how it will look (and sound) when it's finished... god luck, indeed! Hope you will show us the result in the end.
BTW, does anybody know, is apricot wood (or plum, apple, cherry and so on) used in the middle east for building instruments?
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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 11:58 AM


Apricot is used for bridges and pegs, but rarely for backs. It's rather rare in the size big enough for ribs.




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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 12:36 PM


The wood is gorgeous! Can't wait for the finished product.
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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 02:25 PM


Nice wood indeed, happy making :)

I guess people try to keep the apricot trees alive as long as they make fruit.




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[*] posted on 2-23-2014 at 10:43 PM


Hope the wood sounds as good as the fruit tastes!
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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 04:03 AM


As Richard notes Apricot wood is rarely found flawless in larger sizes so is best for small sized work. Should make a fine looking bowl.

Here is what Charles Holzapffel (Charles Applewood!) had to say about Apricot wood in 1843. Note that for many fruit bearing trees though the fruit may taste good the wood may not be so great!

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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 07:07 AM


I may differ with Charley about lemon wood. In 1980 I made an oud with lemon, alternating with Koa Nut. The lemon was dense but flexible. The Koa was less dense, and not as flexible. The color combination was nice, huh?

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[*] posted on 2-24-2014 at 05:09 PM


Bergeron was referring to wood from the lemon tree (Citrus limon) that produces lemon fruit - not the commercially available 'Lemonwood' (or Degame) - so called for its lemon colour - a dense flexible wood sometimes used for making archery bows. It comes from Central America or Cuba. Likely not so readily available today as it once was due to trade restrictions?

Makes a nice contrast in colour.
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[*] posted on 2-28-2014 at 03:21 PM


I'm making a video record of this oud build so it may take a little more time than usual. This will be a Turkish sized oud based on the Manol design. I'm using a mold to build the body, rather than the open fixture method used in the Oud Construction book.
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The build will follow the book process but for a different size oud.




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[*] posted on 3-17-2014 at 05:01 PM


apricot, plum, mulberry wood is used in turkey and armenia to make woodwind instruments such as duduk, kaval, etc.
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[*] posted on 3-18-2014 at 09:12 AM


Hi Richard,

I remember the apricot wood acquisition story from back when you were living in Ben Lomond and driving the Black El Camino. The wood looks great, spectacular actually - good luck to you !!

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[*] posted on 3-18-2014 at 09:40 AM


Hi Richard,
I have never tried cutting the ribs to final shape while flat, I usually bend them straight and then cut them to shape.
I am guessing it would make bending slightly easier at the tips if its already shaped. So do you leave yourself some room for the final planing of the ribs or are these exact size before bending?





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[*] posted on 3-18-2014 at 12:04 PM


Samir, absolutely leave extra material for trimming to fit. Each rib is fitted to the one glued up as well, so I find it nearly impossible to pre-cut exactly to a finished dimension. Slight variations in the shape of the bowel during assembly make it necessary to fine tune the mating edge of the new rib, both in profile and curve. I find it more difficult to cut the ribs after bending, and it takes longer to bend a rib blank.

So you're experience with quarter-sawn rib blanks breaking is reflected with my attempt to bend the swirly grain with lots of knots in these apricot ribs. I don't have enough spare material, so I'm attempting to patch together the broken ribs and hope nobody notices when it's done. The crazy bookmatch patterns just might be distracting enough to hide the patches, but don't tell anyone, ok?




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[*] posted on 3-18-2014 at 12:11 PM


For what its worth, what fixed my issue was soaking the rib about 15 minutes before bending.
I used to try to bend the wood dry or with a light spritz like I did with all other bowls I had made but this walnut was having none of it. It was developing several hairline cracks at the deepest curve of the wood.

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[*] posted on 3-22-2014 at 01:46 PM


First rib! Man these ribs were a b..ch to bend. Never, never, never again will I try to bend knotty ribs. It's gonna look fabulous tho....

I was able to glue the neck block end without clamps or nails or anything, just hide glue: primed both surfaces, then just held there for a minute. The tail end would've worked but it had a little curve that kept pushing off, so I clamped it down.

The video is at 1 hour/1.8GB so far. At this pace it will take a boatload of DVDs @ 4.7GB/ for the whole project! I gotta find another medium. Oh well, I had to try.

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[*] posted on 3-23-2014 at 04:00 AM


This is going to be GORGEOUS! Can't wait for the final product.

You'll have to do some cutting on the video. Just keep the bloopers and beep the expletives out :D
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[*] posted on 3-23-2014 at 04:41 AM


been there, done that. A typical build takes me 80 - 100 hours, and I want this video to be complete, so I may have to go digital big screen. Maybe there's a cloud app?



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[*] posted on 3-23-2014 at 09:47 AM


You can do a trilogy ...
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[*] posted on 5-22-2014 at 09:05 AM


Here's the back and pegbox, wiped with mineral spirits to raise the grain and bring out some of the color. Bending knotty ribs is a real challenge, I broke several ribs, but did not have enough extra matching material to replace them so I decided to glue them together and hope the crazy grain distracts from the glue joints.



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[*] posted on 5-22-2014 at 10:18 AM


:applause:

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[*] posted on 5-22-2014 at 11:47 AM


Absolutely fantastic, Richard.
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[*] posted on 5-22-2014 at 05:03 PM


That's just sexy! Well done!
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[*] posted on 5-27-2014 at 05:14 AM


that is some beautiful figure in the wood. The more radical and beautiful the grain is.. the more difficult working with/bending it is.



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[*] posted on 6-19-2014 at 08:07 AM


The face is done w/ horn roses and a rosewood veneer raqma.



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