Jaffa Road
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Ziryab Syrian Oud
Anybody know anything about this maker?
I have an opportunity to pick one up at a low price
Looks okay in the photos, I might go see it.
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zakiya_alali
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This oud maker is actually iraqi and lives in Syria.
His ouds are similar to Ibrahim Alsukar.
I would say they are most likely for intermediate level
All the best
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I got - it it is quite nice for the price I played it for several hours today.
It is unusual to me on a few points.
1) it has a nice arabic sound but is smaller (body and scale length) than my turkish oud.
(I always thought that arabic sound came from the larger body and scale, must be some other factor???)
2) it has a guitar style truss rod.
3) cheap but with a decent sound and on the whole rather playable.
I need to get a bone nut cut for it as the original is wood and the grooves have the courses to close together in first position. Makes it too
difficult to do that thing where you pedal the tonic bass string with triplets on the treble.
If anyone knows anything more about these ouds I would be interested.
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I am equally interested in learning more about this Oud... but.... I'm not sure because I can't find a link in the post you've placed? is it something
wrong on my end or am I supposed to search the term you placed... ?
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Hi Majnuun
I will take some pictures and post here later, can some one direct me to instructions on how to post pics.
I have looked for a website for this maker and have not found any with a google search in English.
Just lots of stuff about the Ziryab that the oud company is probably named after.
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also, I am interested to see this truss rod.... I wonder if what you think is a truss rod is really the same sukkar mechanism.
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Jaffa Road
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so how do I post pics here?
Is there a way to do it with out uploading to some other site first?
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yes, dont use the quick reply but rather click on the new reply button at the bottom right corner of the last post of the chain.
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Here are some pics of this oud, anybody know anything about this maker- does the workshop still exist?
[file]30876[/file] [file]30878[/file] [file]30880[/file] [file]30882[/file] [file]30884[/file] [file]30886[/file] [file]30888[/file]
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zakiya_alali
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Yes the workshop still exist in Damascus/Syria and friend of mine has recently purchased oud from him.
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Curios to know what Samir might know about the truss rods
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I really like the shape of bowl. Nice and round.
In terms of Arabic sound. I've read that it also has something to do with the thickness of soundboard. According to what I've been told, the
soundboard of Turkish Ouds are lighter, even to the effect that they will shave down the braces. Also the weight and material of the bridge is
important according to this thread...
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=14610
It is probably safe to say if Zeyrab is a Syrian maker, he is following those guidelines for bridge density and weight.
I have no expertise in this, but only my gut feeling says is that the roundness between the soundhole and neck has some contributing factor to sound
as well. I hope someone will enlighten me. I'm kind of obsessed with this...
Nevertheless, I would love to hear that Oud. Please post a video soon!
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You are right Jaffa road, looks like a Truss rod. First time I see one like it. I think its probably a truss rod designed for a mandoline or other
short neck instrument. How is the weight of the neck?
Not the same as the Sukkar neck joint by the way.
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Quote: Originally posted by SamirCanada  | | also, I am interested to see this truss rod.... I wonder if what you think is a truss rod is really the same sukkar mechanism. |
Samir please explain the sukar mechanism.
something that looks like a truss rod but is not?
Before this oud I have only seen truss rods on Fadi and Godin ouds.
It does not seem to need an adjustment so I am not going to mess with it (it aint broke so I aint fixing i)
This oud is growing on me and I will post video or audio hopefully next week.
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| Quote: Originally posted by zakiya_alali |
This oud maker is actually iraqi and lives in Syria.
His ouds are similar to Ibrahim Alsukar.
I would say they are most likely for intermediate level
All the best |
I have seen and tried a couple of these ouds. Seemed not bad!
Its sound lacks the beauty and richness of instruments made by skilled luthiers, however, the sound is not ugly at all and has a surprising loudness.
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