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Fritz
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New arabian Oud in egyptian style
Hi guys
I am working on the next Oud, a big custom made instrument with 600mm string length, fully made of very light mahogany.
The bowl is already completed, the slight inner curve of the top is prepared. The top will be made of caucasian fine spruce with very tight rings.
Have a look...
Best wishes to all of you
Fritz
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What a beauty !
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Fritz
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Thanks, Rob...
but... wait until it is completed :-)
This Oud is again a custom made one for a special person. He wants an Oud with nearly no optical effects... so I try to give as much of beauty as I
can with the wood itself, you know ?
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Fritz
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The next pix of the progress...
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faggiuols
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great Fritz
you're really good!
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Fritz
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As allways : I try my very best with the Ouds I build... That´s all I can do...
Thanks
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Fritz
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Hi folks
After a lot of work on the maple Oud... it´s time again for the mahogany Oud. The top is completed, the ornament for the sound hole fixed, the
bridge assembled, the bracings are mounted and tuned... soon the face will come on the bowl...
Again I can´t post one pic... allthough everything is right with it...
Only the ornament...
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Alfaraby
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This looks great as always, pal 
Keep it up and let us see.
Thank you
Yourd indeed
Alfaraby
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The unfinished mahogany bowl looks gorgeous, it's almost a pity to put something onto the wood!
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Fritz
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Ofcourse I will :-)
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Fritz
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Quote: Originally posted by hans  | | The unfinished mahogany bowl looks gorgeous, it's almost a pity to put something onto the wood! |
Hey guy
Perhaps I disappoint you a bit... but there is some shellaque on the bowl... because of more than one reason ...
One reason is to prevent the wood from touching with sweating fingers and leaving dust and "dirt" on it while working on it... the 2nd reason is to
prevent the bowl from glue while glueing the face ! Squeezing glue might run over the fine sanded wood of the ribs... you have to remove ... this is
prevented by covering the bowl with some layers of shellaque. The glue will not stick on shellaque !
And I think... French polish is the best way to cover fine instruments made of wood. It´s a noble and upper-class finish and a special skill to apply
a nice glossy looking... not too much glossy, but enough... depending on the wood to cover.
Some woods are "satisfied" with a dozen layers, some need much more to be sealed enough. Some are able to get some oil in the polish after a few turns
of applying polish, some need a double dozen to enable the use of oil. Some woods aren´t sanded between the polish-sessions, some are sanded after
mostly every layer. Some are needing thin solutions, some needs thicker viskosity...
I could name much other things... but I do not want to write a book :-)
You surely know what I mean :-)
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Fritz
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Fritz
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Another update
Also on this Oud the neck is assembled... the fingerboard will come this week. The angle is made to get an action by about 2,5mm... less if needed. So
the option is included
There is a mahogany middle in the neck to prevent any torsion and ability to come up sometimes... this neck is very stiff...
Again I will use a relatively thick fingerboard of black with brown ebony to make the contrast not too hard. It will begin with about 4mm at the
neckblock and ends by about 6mm at the saddle.. this is the plan
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Very nice, sometimes I either use a solid wood for the neck, or I do as you do with, with a wood joined in the middle for more strength.
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| Quote: Originally posted by bulerias1981 | | Very nice, sometimes I either use a solid wood for the neck, or I do as you do with, with a wood joined in the middle for more strength.
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Hi John
When I have a fine piece of spruce for the neck, the rings rectangular to the fingerboard, than I might use it as a solid core... in every other case
I try to give a middle made of harder wood, but never ebony, that would be too heavy. Rosewood or hard mahogany or hard nut-wood is the best for the
inner tile. My opinion.
While I was bulding these two Ouds... I decided to make the neck as a single part, not assembled when the bowl is without the top as many other
builders do. So I can be sure to match the exact middle line of the top, the bowl itself, and the position of the bridge (I glue the bridge after
making the inlays in the face and attaching the pickguard... then the bracings...)
So I am able to control the angle of the neck-surface against the face.... and the line from neck-end center, neck-beginning center and the bridge
center, following the glueing joint of the top very precisely.
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Fritz
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Also on this Oud the pegbox is almost ready... built in the same way as I did on the maple Oud-Pegbox...
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Nice clamping jigs for the neck, I use spring clamps most of the time, or nylon twin tightly wrapped around, but this seems good too.
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Also for this Oud I made the pegbox... awaiting the wanted design for the tip of the box ... the customer had a special idea. The pegbox isn´t
mounted, but fits perfectly...
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The oud and pegbox together are very beautiful. But also impressive is everything else in the photo. Is this your workshop? If it is, it is
astonishingly clean and tidy. I have never seen a luthier's work place so neat and clean.
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Fritz
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| Quote: Originally posted by Jody Stecher | | The oud and pegbox together are very beautiful. But also impressive is everything else in the photo. Is this your workshop? If it is, it is
astonishingly clean and tidy. I have never seen a luthier's work place so neat and clean. |
Hi Jody
Nice to see you checking my pix. And... yes.. my workshop is clean almost every time... ofcourse there are other days with planing chips al around or
sanding dust in my whole flat .. my workshop is one of three rooms I have in my flat... So I want to have this room clean like it would be a dining
room perhaps...
A structured and clean workshop invites more to work on something :-) It´s a good base, you know...
Fritz
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Fritz
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Hi folks
the Oud is completed, very easy to play and sounds loud and clear. The new strings have to set for a time... will see asap how it really sounds with
tuining...
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Lovely understated work Fritz, can't wait to hear it !!
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Well done Fritz, very beautiful work, however...
The end of the Bowl must be semi circle, most of our masters did it that way... a bowl like this with the end being straight is not a nice looking
nor comfortable for the player....
just my observation....I hope you are not going to be upset.
all the best,
Adel
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Adel probably means this shape of the legendary Hanna Nahat !
I agree, but yet there are other schools, beside our friends' from Damascus.
Fritz titled the project "... Egyptian style" and on the other hand, he had built another shape here:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/files.php?pid=104879&aid=3...
Both are great works, dear pal
Yours indeed
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No early ouds survive ('out with the old in with the new' philosophy no doubt) so it is difficult to judge but few ouds with a semicircular sound
board geometry survive and no lutes as far as I am aware. The best surviving oud of this kind may be that of the Lebanese brothers A-Arja owned by
forum member ALAMI.
One of the earliest European lute to survive in original condition by Giovanni Hieber dates to the second half of the 16th C. It has a 'flattened'
bottom bowl geometry similar to the admirable oud made by Fritz. Indeed both the European oud masters and the later oud masters such as the Nahat
family used a more sophisticated lower bowl geometry that was close to an ellipse in geometry (egg shaped or oval in reality - easier to create than
an ellipse).
For a more detailed examination of oud/lute geometry see here:
http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=11186
Geometrical preferences no doubt are also influenced by visual appeal rather than acoustical superiority - as always "beauty is in the eye of the
beholder"!
Nice work Fritz
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Dear friends... I would have not commented on this thread if I did not like Fritz work ... I have said it and I will say it again ... Well done and
very beautiful work ... Coming back to my point , the poor player will have to spend more money and time on fixing his / her back and shoulder than
he/she spent on the oud ... Their is nothing elegant about a straight line bowl ... Take the cheapest and lower end oud made by Hanna, Roufan, Abdo
Nahat and you will see how elegant the bowl is ... Also you have some great examples from the Egyptian school like lacy ... I believe as a player that
this kind of straight line should be banned follow stop and makers should think also of the player and how comfortable he/she is with the instrument
and not to have any obstacle between them to produce the best which can come out of the instrument ... Best wishes ,
Adel
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