suz_i_dil
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making of a rosette : which materials ?
Hello all
I will go for making a rosette, with a design which will needs thin details, and hand made
Do you think multiple layers of wood is enough to go in those details or is it a must have to go for bone for this kind of detailed work ?
But then where to find a bone plate enough wide in diameter ? I checked dictum website, plate are not enough wide for a main rosette.
What would you do, may you share your experience about ?
Looking forward to read your thoughts about
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Hibari-San
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Hey !
I learned from Mr Downing that is has to be some hard, fine grained material if u want to make a very detailed rosette.
Multiple layers is worth a try but not traditional 
If you want to make it with bone, try to search bone veneer.
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suz_i_dil
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Thank you, I will check for that type of veneer
Best !
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You can use a think plywood of birch sold by hobby shops anywhere. The total thickness shouldn't be more than 3-4mm. They are usually either 3x or 5x
ply which is great especially when carving intricate patterns. Bone is used to carve the most intricate patterns. But good to start with the plywood
suggestion. Here is a video of me carving a rosette a few years back.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWFL4N5DwNQ
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suz_i_dil
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Hello
thank you for your feedback. I must say watching your video plywood looks easy to work... moreover your experience of woodworking of course 
I just gave a few tries past, with a piece of mahogany (easy to work but not clean finishing) and then a piece of rosewood (hard to work and with
breakable in details).
So let's go for plywood next time I try if I wish more detailed rosette. Or multiple layers ? That should be as strong as commercial plywood don't you
think ?
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I recommend you make your own plywood. Its easy and it will work even better!
take some veneer and make it 4 sheets glued together with the grain going in all directions. Put it between some wax paper sheets for cooking and then
clamp it in a press. you can make your own press or you can even use 2 wide wood 6x6 or 8x8 planks with clamps all around the corners. you can add
your bone or pearl veneer afterwards on the top layer. It can be maple veneer or any nice flat wooden veneer.
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suz_i_dil
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Thanks Samir for the advice on how to do it.
I will give a try, that should end finish in a nicer looking way than plywood.
Will go for both, laser made, and hand made for the pleasure of the art and of the learning
I'll keep update on my 2016 oud project
Cheers
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I have found that veneers of birch or maple are not dense enough to cut cleanly and support fine details. I make laminations of rosewood veneer,
readily avilable and dense enough. 4-5 layers. Bone can be glued onto a wood base in 2 or more pieces. Knife supply sources have sheets made for knife
handles, but I have not found any large enough for a full piece.
camel bone
http://www.knifehandles.com/smooth-jigged-bone/camel-bone
micarta
http://www.rockler.com/linen-micarta-knife-scales-bone?utm_source=b...
or rigid plastic
http://www.amazon.com/ABS-Plastic-Sheet-Thick-Thickness/dp/B004UBW5...
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Hello Richard
thank you for the feedbacks concerning your experience and the precise links toward materials
I have seen also amazing look veneer on dictum website (an European suplier for wood working and knife making)
Keep in touch
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Matthias
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Hello,
I am doing my own plywood
3 x .7 - .8 mm works well
it is not the veneer you can buy, it is my own veneer, solid wood sanded down
as the ready to buy veneer will always break.
so it works well with maple and cherry for all designs
Best regards
MAtthias
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