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[*] posted on 7-21-2016 at 03:07 PM
advices on riq makers ?


Hello

sorry if this topic out of the subject of the ouds, but thought I may find good advices from members.
I came to try a Keyvorg riq, amazing instrument, particularly by its musicality in comparison of the one I am playing.
Do you know others reputable makers to approach this kind of musicality ? Keyvorg instruments seems really difficult to get nowadays

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[*] posted on 7-21-2016 at 06:43 PM


This riq is very nice, not quite Kevork-fancy but very close in sound and playing qualities:
http://www.raquydrumstore.com/pro-riq-and-bendir/rami-pro-riq

Emin percussion makes nice riqs, a bit brighter than Kevork.

Eli Huli is good.

Cooperman's newest riq model is very nice, though the jingles are slightly subpar:
http://www.cooperman.com/coopermanhanddrums/hand-drums-riq/

Nakhle is very good, probably the closest to Kevork
http://www.nakhle.ws/riq.html


Something to consider: a good traditional riq tends to be nicer sounding even than the best of these. It's a challenge to find a good one, but they are out there. They are a bit challenging to use when the humidity is high—players tend to have two and alternative playing one and putting one on a heating pad if they are performing.

There's some guy in the Midwest US that makes really nice ones but I can't remember his name at the moment. Johnny Farraj (of maqamworld.com) finds good old shells, re-skins them and puts nice jingles on them, he often has nice instruments in a reasonable price range.







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[*] posted on 7-22-2016 at 02:49 AM


Thank you very much Brian for these detailed answer.
that makes many tracks to explore to get a good instrument, great !
For the natural skin one, I think a German maker makes a tunable one, name schlakwerk or so. Maybe a nice option also ?
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[*] posted on 7-22-2016 at 03:24 AM


Schlagwerk makes great frame drums, but I don't know about the riq.
The necessary changes to make the riq tunable seem to impact the sound.
Cooperman will use a skin head if you want, and it's tunable also. And Kevork always came with a skin head in addition to plastic.
But none of these sound quite like a traditional riq. Part of this is that the traditional riq usually uses fish skin, while Schlagwerk and Kevork used the heavier goat skin (Cooperman uses fish skin). Part of it is the shape of the bearing edge and shell and the way your hand falls on the instrument.

Of course, the advantages of a tunable instrument are enormous, and these instruments all tend to be capable of louder volumes and can cut through a louder ensemble as well. It depends on what you want. I know some folks who use a Kevork or similar for most gigs but will use a traditional riq for recording.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2016 at 05:50 AM


Hi!

Brian named a few good options already.
I have to say I loved Emin riqs in acustic sets as my percussionist as one, though on recordings gingles are quite noisy and too high end sound.
Didnt sound as good as acustically.

One more good maker from Jerusalem is Elman. I have one of his riq.
His riqs frames are tinner then standard and they have nice grip.
If you go to Tamburi Mundi you may be able to find out different brands and try them out :)
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[*] posted on 7-22-2016 at 09:29 AM


Thank you guys, that givea me a lot of clues to make a choice !



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[*] posted on 8-26-2016 at 12:38 PM


I have an Emin riqq and love it. Consistent quality as far I can tell I have played 3 of them and they were all very similar. If you know where to get a Kevork you might try one out.
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