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[*] posted on 4-17-2017 at 06:24 PM
Proposed Restoration


Hello to everyone, I am new here and wanted to post my project. I don't play any musical instruments, although I am learning guitar, I am very good at wood working. Recently I purchased an Oud as a "project". It needs work. So before I make any regrettable mistakes I am looking for any information anyone is willing to offer. I am in the research phase. I first need to identify it, and with the pictures you can see other things that need to be done. I would like to eventually play it. So here goes.



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[*] posted on 4-18-2017 at 06:21 AM


If someone could tell me what the label says, I would really appreciate it. I don't want to speculate.
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[*] posted on 4-18-2017 at 08:25 AM


it says
"iraqi oud
mohammaed Faddel "

then the adress - busra - iraq

so you came across a mohammed fadel oud randomly in the states ? lol
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[*] posted on 4-18-2017 at 02:50 PM


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Thank you :applause: I'm thrilled :bounce: to think I have an oud built by a master. But is it real or a tourist one with his name. I need to be certain.
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[*] posted on 4-18-2017 at 03:39 PM


Most definitely fake... sorry



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[*] posted on 4-18-2017 at 07:19 PM


@SamirCanada


How can you tell ?


It could be. I have no idea. 21 strips of Walnut back , solid Spruce top.
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[*] posted on 4-19-2017 at 08:01 AM


Wasn't Mohammad Faddel based in Baghdad not Basra?

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[*] posted on 4-19-2017 at 08:27 AM


That's what I see also, that Mohammad Faddel was in Baghdad. But if it's a fake why put your address as well as the location on a label in it. Are there two people with the same name ? Did he move for a time to Basra to continue his work due to the political climate ?
Can we determine how old it is from the construction or style ?
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[*] posted on 4-19-2017 at 12:55 PM


Just realized you are in ATL, you can go to the highland woodworker. I wish I had a store like it near me.

Original Mohammed Fadel ouds would have a different label with his picture on it. Also, the workmanship is much better. Fadel ouds with the oval holes never had rosettes in them.

Do a search on the forums to see past discussions on the topic. You will see.

these "fake" fadel ouds are very common in Iraq because of the reputation his ouds had people are tempted to try and make more money by putting his name on the ouds they make. There are more fake fadel ouds than real ones I bet.

Regarding your project Oud, its a perfect instrument to try your first restoration on. What do you want to do just a repair or full revamp? The possibilities are endless. IF you remove the face and replace with a new one, you can also fix that crack in the back easily. Change the pegs too.




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[*] posted on 4-19-2017 at 01:21 PM


Ok, Thanks. Yes I know where the Highland Woodworker is, although I'd have to take the back road due to the bridge collapse. I know of a few places to get a new top. Replace the pegs ? to what ? Ebony ?
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[*] posted on 4-22-2017 at 09:23 PM


Yeah, seems like a fake. Fadel ouds are notorious for being knock offs, because M. Fadel ouds are so sought after, other makers figured they could sell their ouds if they use his name. It's a pity really.



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[*] posted on 4-23-2017 at 04:13 PM


it has a decent shape not sure if making it into a floating bridge would propose much implications but i think it could be interesting
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[*] posted on 7-13-2017 at 09:44 PM


No, I didn't forget. Just haven't started yet.
I wonder how old it is, anybody guess?
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[*] posted on 9-13-2017 at 05:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by SufianSaeed  
it has a decent shape not sure if making it into a floating bridge would propose much implications but i think it could be interesting

Floating bridge ouds have a different brace design than fixed bridge ouds. Conversion is not recommended.




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