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[*] posted on 11-22-2017 at 07:08 PM
Dastgah Identification

A question for anyone familiar with the Persian dastgah:

Recently I have come to love this performance with Shajarian and Mansour Nariman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DQY0fXW7cc

Also, here is the full performance (titled saghinameh) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCp7Bkwjr2g

Unfortunately I am struggling to confirm the dastgah it is in. The internet says it is bayat-e esfehan, but the performance clearly starts with a saghi nameh, and saghi nameh is only in mahour! (at least in the radif mirza abdollah).

Is there another version of the radif that has saghi nameh somewhere else? My search of the Farsi internet says sometimes saghi nameh is played in Esfehan or Nava, but I can't find any other pdf versions of the radif to confirm.

Any leads?
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[*] posted on 11-23-2017 at 12:17 PM

i really love bayat-e esfehan , do you have its repertoire or how to learn playing it ?
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[*] posted on 12-17-2017 at 09:21 AM

In Mahour you can actually do this modulation to Esfahan and you also find it in some classical pieces. You can play Saghinameh in actual Mahour, but also this Esfahan version is included in the end of Dastgah Mahour in Mirza Abdollah's Radif.
I also don't consider it wrong playing this piece in an Esfahan performance.
What a nice recording! Thank you for sharing.
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