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[*] posted on 4-16-2018 at 07:29 AM
Turkish staff notation software


Suggestions for software to typeset Turkish art and folk music in the conventional way? I use Macs and I doubt there is a Mac-based solution - so, something that will run on an antiquated junk-quality Windows machine of the kind I might get for nearly free, but still generate good PDFs.

(Motivated by trying to use Jonathan Gemmill's book - the only way it's going to work is if I re-typeset everything I want to play).




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[*] posted on 4-16-2018 at 08:10 AM


Hello,

This has worked well for me (on Mac):

http://www.mus2.com.tr/en/

Thanks,

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[*] posted on 4-16-2018 at 01:19 PM


That looks like it should do it - thanks!



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[*] posted on 4-16-2018 at 02:04 PM


I use Musescore on pc and it works fine.
It's free and it exists for a lot of OS, including Mac.
https://musescore.org/en/download
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[*] posted on 4-16-2018 at 02:42 PM


Mus2 was developed in Turkey and is geared to accommodating all the requirements of Turkish musical notation. Does MuseScore make it possible to add the accidentals specific to Turkish music to the standard Western accidentals that appear in the program's palette?

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[*] posted on 4-17-2018 at 04:02 AM
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Yes Musescore does have all the accidentals. But it does NOT play them automatically. It only plays the flat & sharp.
Anyway the software allows you to adjust the pitch of each note.
And since the software is opensource, there are a lot of plugins available.
I use for example 'Quarter Tone Playback" made by Gilbert Yamine, a Lebanese qanun player living now in Germany.
(see the screenshots).
I remind you it is free. So easy to evaluate.

Robert

Musescore accidentals.JPG - 20kB Musescore fine tuning.JPG - 24kB Musescore - Quartertone playback.JPG - 50kB
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[*] posted on 4-17-2018 at 07:44 AM


Microber, thank you very much for this information. I will try the program. The online manual should be helpful in getting oriented to the way it works.
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[*] posted on 4-20-2018 at 11:38 AM


I am also using Musescore for microtonal notation (Turkish, Arab, Persian) for quite a while already and was satisfied by many features and improvements. The plugin Microber was mentioning kept crashing for me. Is there a new version that works? I was using a workaround, for example marking an "E" choosing to mark all Es and then set the intonation for all of them.
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[*] posted on 4-20-2018 at 12:53 PM


Interresting !
How do you proceed to mark all the Es ?
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[*] posted on 4-20-2018 at 04:53 PM


Hello Jack and Everyone,

You might be interested in also checking out LilyPond.

I wrote my oud book which I recently announced on this forum, using LilyPond and Latex, and you can check out the previews of the output in the links in my announcement post, to see what the results look like.

http://www.mikeouds.com/messageboard/viewthread.php?tid=17577

Here is the link to the LilyPond website:

http://lilypond.org/

You can check the chapters on World Music music in their notation reference.

http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/world-music

I wrote the chapter on Arabic music for them many years ago, but I haven't used the features of additional accidentals in my book. Since then, someone has added a chapter on Turkish music and it looks like Lilypond can handle the features you want.

LilyPond is quite powerful and flexible to produce output that matches printed music, but there is some learning curve as it is based on typing notations and instructions in a text file that gets transformed into music. There is no graphical interface, but the documentation is excellent. It is powerful enough to produce a complete book with notation, but it is only suitable if you are comfortable working with command line interfaces and programming concepts. If you just want to produce few pages and controlling the exact look of the output is not important then a GUI might be more suitable.

I haven't use MuseScore so I am not sure how LilyPond and MuseScore compare in terms of features and output quality.
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[*] posted on 4-20-2018 at 11:36 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Microber  
Interresting !
How do you proceed to mark all the Es ?

I mark an E, right click -> select -> more... -> same note name: E
When I change the pitch now, this is true for all the Es. If I have different kind of Es in one piece, it is bad luck and I have to change some of them by hand, but still it became less work than before.
This feature exists for a year or so and I'm very happy about it.
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[*] posted on 4-21-2018 at 12:00 AM


Thanks Bugaga. Nice feature. I didn't know it.

If you have a problem with Quarter tone playback, you could contact Gilbert Yamine. He probably could help you.
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