Mike's Oud Forums
Not logged in [Login - Register]
Go To Bottom

Printable Version  
Author: Subject: John Bilezikjian's Music from the Armenian Diaspora
ArmoOudist
Oud Addict
***




Posts: 47
Registered: 11-21-2020
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-22-2021 at 04:16 PM
John Bilezikjian's Music from the Armenian Diaspora


Not sure if anyone here has tried playing along to music from John Bilezikjian's music from the Armenian diaspora, but I've noticed something odd about the tuning. It feels like everything is done a half step up.
For example, here's his rendition of the Armenian Laz Bar (2:17 in the video)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJjFsV_5Y0c
This may seem like a weird thing to nitpick over it, but it just feels weird when I sit down and try to play it. On the one hand, when I play what "feels natural" fingering wise on Armenian tuning, it sounds off, but when I try to play along on my oud in the original tuning, the fingering is all weird.
I guess I could just tune my oud a half step up, but it's sort of been driving me crazy for whatever reason. Don't get me wrong, I love his rendition, I think I just needed a place to vent about it... :))
Here's Hagopian's version as a comparison
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-jDPjOIr1M
View user's profile View All Posts By User
yavaran
Oud Addict
***




Posts: 41
Registered: 7-23-2014
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-22-2021 at 09:44 PM


In these cases, I download the mp3 from YouTube and change the key in an audio editing program :) Iím not skilled enough to play in an awkward position!
View user's profile View All Posts By User
paulO
Oud Junkie
*****




Posts: 523
Registered: 9-8-2004
Location: California
Member Is Offline

Mood: Utz

[*] posted on 1-23-2021 at 04:50 PM


Yep, it's 1/2 step up - not sure why John chose to do this. Everytime I saw him, he was tuned EABead, it's puzzling.
It may have been that one of the ouds he used on the album sounded exceptional tuned up a 1/2 step, so that's where everything ended up.

I'm with yavaran on this - grab an mp3 of the tune, and run it through something like "amazing slow downer" to adjust the pitch.
Have fun.

Regards - Paul


View user's profile View All Posts By User
ArmoOudist
Oud Addict
***




Posts: 47
Registered: 11-21-2020
Member Is Offline


[*] posted on 1-23-2021 at 05:12 PM


It's funny how simple something like tuning can affect a song. When I first started playing the oud, I used an Arab oud from Syria that my grandfather had lying around. Playing Armenian songs always felt "off." Once I got a Turkish oud of higher quality and set it to Armenian tuning, it's amazing how many of the songs just naturally fit.
View user's profile View All Posts By User

  Go To Top

Powered by XMB
XMB Forum Software © 2001-2011 The XMB Group