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[*] posted on 6-2-2005 at 03:58 AM


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Last week. It had just been listed, and I was the first person to see the listing. The little counter on the bottom actually said "1". A grand total of $525 (I used Buy it Now). It makes up for all the times I got junk from ebay.


I check Ebay everyday, and didn't see this! I'm jealous Jonathan! Congratulations! Can we see a pick of the back? How does it sound?




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[*] posted on 6-3-2005 at 04:41 AM


Thanks, guys. I really think it is real. It is definitely an old oud, and it feels authentic, but I have never held a Nahat in my hands before. I can post more pics, but I won't be able to for a few days. I am not an expert. I am certainly not opposed to sending it out to some expert for authentication, but I don't know if we oud players actually have such a thing.
Dr. Oud, thanks. I will send out the measurements in about a week or so. As far as the sound-- I don't know yet. I was accidentally sent Turkish strings instead of Arabic, so I will order a new set, string it up, and post a sound file. You guys can let me know.




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[*] posted on 6-18-2005 at 12:59 PM


Here are the measurements for that 1930 Abdo:
Body width: 13 7/8 inches
Body length: 19 3/8 "
Body depth: 7 1/2 "
String length: 24 1/8 "
Neck length: 8"
Rosettes: 4 5/8 inches diam., 1 1/4" diam.
Sorry, couldn't find a tape measure with cms on it at the moment.

I am going to try to post a sound file in the next week or so--I just restrung it, and am waiting for the strings to settle down a bit.
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[*] posted on 6-20-2005 at 05:17 PM


I am posting a quickie sound file of that oud. I have no idea what a Nahat is supposed to sound like, but I do like the tone on this oud. Really full bodied, and I like the bass a lot--which I guess explains why there is a lot of it here. I didn't add any effects to the sound--it just came out like this. Let me know what you think of the sound--I am curious. Just remember that if you give a little kid a Stradivarius, it is just going to sound like a fiddle.



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[*] posted on 6-21-2005 at 09:25 PM
jorge nahat






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[*] posted on 6-21-2005 at 09:27 PM
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1928 Nahhat



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[*] posted on 6-22-2005 at 12:33 AM
Nahat sound


Congratulations Jonathan.

That is a Nahat sound (not a fiddle)

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[*] posted on 6-22-2005 at 03:42 AM


Waw Samir :::very Nice :::¿is your this oud??
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[*] posted on 6-22-2005 at 08:47 AM


Hello,
Sorry Dr Oud and Jameel......i completely forgot to send you the measurements of my Toufiq Nahat!!...if you're still intrested:
string lenght: 62cm
neck :21 cm
Body is 51,5cm lenght x 36,5 width x 21depth...
if you need something else just ask...i will answer more quickly than this time!! i hope...
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[*] posted on 6-22-2005 at 12:12 PM
just


hi faladel
not mine
just i repaired it




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[*] posted on 6-22-2005 at 01:00 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by Elias...string lenght: 62cm
neck :21 cm
Body is 51,5cm lenght x 36,5 width x 21depth...
if you need something else just ask...i will answer more quickly than this time!! i hope...
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Elias

If you could..measure the size and location of the shams and eyun (sound holes) - Measure from the neck joint to the bottom edge of the Shams (big hole) and to the top edge of the small holes (eyun). Thanks (shukran).




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[*] posted on 6-23-2005 at 12:20 AM


hello,
so...it's 21cm from the neck to the bottom of the shams and 30.5cm to small holes' top...i am enjoying mesure ouds!, just ask new measurements!:)
Need sound file?...i'll try to record something ant to post it, but i am not so good with computers stuff...
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[*] posted on 6-23-2005 at 11:41 AM


....and the diamter of the sham is 11,5 and the small hole 4,3 cm..
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[*] posted on 7-8-2005 at 01:58 PM


I just did a big update in the Nahat museum. I want to thank Spyros Camateros for a great effort translating and analyzing labels and Shamsiyeh. Without his expert analysis I would have been lost in the maze of names and dates. I have also made contact with another descendant in Brazil who has promised a family history. New ouds added include an Abdo "Hanum" oud from around 1890. There are label translations and a geneology chart by Spyros. check it out!
http://www.droud.com/nahats.htm




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[*] posted on 7-8-2005 at 02:10 PM


Wow! It's incredible what you have done. The geneology tree, in particular, really helps make sense of all the different names and relationships.



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[*] posted on 9-20-2005 at 08:34 AM


I have just received email from Nahat family members in France, Switzerland and Saudi Arabia! I am compiling the information and will have an update for the history in the Nahat Museum soon. This is very exciting as it clarifies the history that was based on only label information previously. There are as you know also family in Sao Paolo, and now I learned there are more in US, Canada, England as well as some still in Damascus. Stay tuned for more info soon.



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[*] posted on 9-20-2005 at 01:58 PM


Great work on the Nahat site, Doc.... The Nahat instruments are a great symbolic focal point, and it is a tremendous service to oudists everywhere to have the pictures and information readily available. Many thanks, Mark.
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[*] posted on 9-23-2005 at 02:10 PM


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Great work on the Nahat site, Doc.... The Nahat instruments are a great symbolic focal point, and it is a tremendous service to oudists everywhere to have the pictures and information readily available. Many thanks, Mark.

I am reciving extensive information about the family from descendants of Antun Nahat. The new information clarifies dates and relationships. They have sent messages to other members scattered around the world in England, Switzerland, Saudia Arabia, USA, Canada and Brazil. Sadly, no one is making ouds any more, but there is a professional oudist in Damascus. Stay tuned ...

In a side note, I am presenting a workshop on Persian music in Portland OR Oct 16 with John Bilezikiian.
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[*] posted on 9-23-2005 at 02:26 PM


I wish somebody would host a show like that in LA. Looks fantastic.



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[*] posted on 10-5-2005 at 10:42 AM


The Nahat Museum has a been updated with some new pictures of ouds, labels and a new genealogy compiled by Spyros from information received by descendants of the oud makers. Contact has been made with family members in Brazil, France, Switzerland, Saudia Arabia and Canada. other descendants are living in England and the US as well as Damascus. There are many creative artists and professional people but sadly no more oud makers. Check it out.



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