wfspark
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kobza
ey guys. I'm an old member here. My name is William Sparks from San Antonio Texas. I'm interested in this kobza. Where can I get one, and how much do
they cost in the states? Thanks
William F. Sparks
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Koya
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Hi William,
I have not information abot cobza in US, but I think you can order from the best maker: Hora S.A. Factory in Romania
Best reggards: Koya
Contact & Order info
Hora S.A. Factory
Founded 1951
3, Salcamilor St. 545300 Reghin ROMANIA
Ph: +40-265-512411, 512414
Fax: +40-265-511427
mail@hora.ro
General Manager, Secretariate +40-265-512411
Marketing Director 512412
Export office 512414
Sale office 512413
Order info
Shipping: All orders will be shipped via EMS or TNT unless otherwise instructed.
Prices are understood as ex-works (without shipping cost). The shipping cost is added to the
invoice and depends on the types of instruments and quantity ordered.
Inquiries: For inquiries regarding HORA products, please contact us.
We reserve the right to modify the catalogue information referring to technical characteristics,
presented models and prices, at any time and without prior notice.
Payment: L/C, Bank transfer in advance or Credit cards - VISA or Eurocard/MasterCard
For questions or comments about our products, please don't hesitate to contact us by e-mail.
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Koya
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This is their Web site:
http://www.hora.ro/pages/mandolins.htm
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adamgood
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What are the tunings for kobza?
are romanian tunings different from Hungararian or Moldavian?
Adam 
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Koya
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Hi,
That is the most used tunnings:
E A D G
A E A D
G D G C
I am using AEAD because it is comfortable to play together with violin, flute.
you can find tabs for cobza here (only hungarian jet)
http://www.moldvahon.hu/newslist.php?categoryID=7
This is written to GDGC tunnings.
Bye: Koya
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adamgood
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Hi Koya,
wow that's great thank you for answering. I've been listening to the mp3s you posted and now i have many questions. seeing the chord shapes answers
one of them.
here's a couple more for you...
1. what do you use for a plectrum? what do most hungarians use? guitar plectrum?
2. what sort of techniques are involved with the right hand? For example, how do you play Szerba rhythm? do they play on all of the beats or only on
the off beats? (i hope that makes sense.)
it's difficult to hear sometimes in the recordings because there's also drum.
3. are romanian tunings radically different from Hungarian?
thank you!!!!!
adam
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Koya
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kobza
Hi Adam,
About your questions:
1. The guitar plectrum is highly recommended, my teacher advised, but we like the oud plectrums too.
2. this is difficulct to write down here, it would be good for you to see the main picking technics, maybe I can scan my notes, if you need.
Have you got a Kobza?
It would be good to know the melodies...
In the Moldavian folk music there are five main types of rhythms of accompaniment:
- 2/4 or 4/4 passages
- triplet melodies
- the assimethric 7/8 balkanic rhythm, (geramparale for example)
-syncopated passages (dedoi for example)
- playing like on dulcimer.
The Szerba is a triplet melody, very varied, very fast and complex to explain here.
Next time I will get myself together and write something more.
3. The tuning question is not simple, because the cobza nowadays is not common, the last authentic Hungarian players in Moldva died 10-20 years ago,
so there is so little material remained. But from their notes we know that they used G-D-G-C (or similar).
Nowadays the gypsy musicians who play it use E-A-D-G tuning (but they also play the guitar, bass guitar,etc.)
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kasos
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Hi - I just noticed an instrument very similar to the Hungarian cobza on E-bay - hadn't noticed it before, if it's been on.... It's listed as a
Ukrainian Kobza, item #7352401205. It's a sort of hybrid instrument, with pins on the soundboard but also the pear shaped bowl, inclined peg-box and
soundholes that seem to be characteristic of the Hungarian instruments.
Though there have been plenty of other Ukrainian kobzas on, this one is a quite different design from the rest I've seen, and you might want to check
it out.
Mark
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