Brynley
Oud Addict
Posts: 30
Registered: 2-6-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: very positive
|
|
Twelth peg ?
I am a new person on the pat,h of the oud and recently started lesson,s with an Iraqi oud master who studied with Jamil Bashir, I feel very lucky and
honoured to study with him. I bought my oud from him, it is a very plain oud with one uncovered sound hole,made in Syria by a lesser known maker, but
my teacher says it has a good sound , and I agree, it has that nice deep sound I always loved . My question is this,why the twelth peg hole
in the peg box? My teacher tells me it is,nt used ,but i,ve seen pictures of some oud,s with the 12th string , also the nut on my oud is grooved
for an extra string. I,m curious as to the reasons behind all this. Any answers to this mystery anyone?
|
|
|
mavrothis
Oud Junkie
Posts: 1674
Registered: 6-5-2003
Location: NJ/NYC
Member Is Offline
Mood: big band envy
|
|
hi. most players use 11 strings or 10 strings, but some add an extra pair of treble strings to the 10 string tuning, making it 12 string. so if your
current high treble pair is C, they would add a treble pair in the key of F above it. of course, if you ever start on the bachir oud, then you could
even be dealing with 13 strings. but you said yours is syrian right?
it's no big deal, enjoy your oud! it's really great that you can study with a student of such a famous master.
take care,
mav
|
|
|
spyrosc
Oud Junkie
Posts: 405
Registered: 9-18-2003
Location: Northern California, USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: Grateful
|
|
12th string
Dear Brynley,
For normal tunings the "top" string (lowest frequency) is usually so thick and heavy that putting two of them together might cause them to
come in contact and "buzz".
So most players leave the 12th string out. Some oud makers will make provision for a 12th string even though it's normally not needed. There are
some ouds (like the Bashir ouds) that may have 13 strings, but then the thick one some times goes on the "bottom".
There's nothing wrong with your oud, and the way your teacher told you to tune it.
Enjoy it.
Spyros C
|
|
|
Zulkarnain
Oud Junkie
Posts: 667
Registered: 1-14-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Hi guys!
Yup its no big deal-just enjoy learning and playing the instrument!
Salam
Zul
***take out that extra peg and keep it safe somewhere!
|
|
|
Adel
Oud Maniac
Posts: 90
Registered: 12-7-2003
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
Hi Brynley,
Can you be so kind to tell me who is your teacher.
Salamat,
Adel
|
|
|
nadir
Oud Junkie
Posts: 329
Registered: 12-29-2003
Location: USA
Member Is Offline
Mood: No Mood
|
|
i have a twelfth peg on my syrian oud, but it is not stringed. its used for extra base when you have twelve strings as opposed to eleven.
|
|
|
Brynley
Oud Addict
Posts: 30
Registered: 2-6-2004
Member Is Offline
Mood: very positive
|
|
Hi Adel, My teachers name is Sirwan Yamolki , this may not be the correct spelling, as I only know it by ear, as is the instruction by ear also.
For the rest of the thread , It,s very interesting that the oud is still evolving , different string
set ups ,tuning etc, and yet keeps its basic form. What was the old tuning(s) back when the oud had only four courses? Thanks
|
|
|
![[*]](images/xmbprobrown/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
